Lemming: 'They've got to win' to conquer Chicago

The lack of in-state football prospects north of Interstate 80 coming to Illinois next year is noticeable.

The greater Chicagoland area has produced prep phenoms like Laquon Treadwell of Crete-Monee, Ty Isaac of Joliet Catholic and Ethan Pocic of Lemont in the Class of 2013.

But Mississippi (Treadwell), USC (Isaac) and LSU (Pocic) are their college destinations instead of the school a few hours down I-57.

Seeing top in-state players leave the state to play college football rankles many Illinois fans. Understandably so.

The lack of players from the Chicago or the surrounding suburbs in the Class of 2013 dropped again on Monday after Lincoln-Way Central defensive end Evan Panfil flipped his commitment to Purdue.

This leave the class, now at 25 players (10 already on campus), with only four (Bolingbrook quarterback Aaron Bailey, Plainfield Central defensive tackle Bryce Douglas, Crete-Monee defensive back Jaylen Dunlap and linebacker Reggie Spearman) coming within an hour of what renowned CBS Sports Network recruiting expert Tom Lemming calls "the No. 1 area in the Midwest."

So what does Illinois have to do in order to crack the impenetrable wall the greater Chicago area has become to the program? It's a simple answer, according to Lemming, but one that is never easy to accomplish.

"To do that they've got to win," Lemming said. "The coaches have done their job. The organization is there. The early offers are there. The staying on top of the recruits and building relationships. Illinois has got great academics and very good facilities. What they're lacking are the wins."

It's not like Illinois is the only high-major football program within driving distance of Chicagoland.

There's Notre Dame. Northwestern. Purdue. Wisconsin.

Aside from doing better near and in Chicago, Lemming thinks Illinois needs to improve its foothold in the St. Louis area, Indianapolis area and Detroit area, other major metropolitan areas within driving distance of Champaign-Urbana.

"As soon as the arrow starts pointing north and it looks like the program is moving forward, which I think it will in this upcoming year, you'll start seeing these big-name guys consider Illinois," Lemming said. "The kids are just waiting for the wins."

Lemming said the work coach Tim Beckman has done in Ohio with this class (five players, including four-star recruit Caleb Day) plus their ties to the state are key.

"Ohio is the No. 1 state in the Midwest," Lemming said. "If you're going to have guys from any other part of the Midwest (besides Chicago), Ohio is the place to be. These guys have the connection to Ohio, and that's where they should recruit. If you hit those areas real hard, you're going to have success. Ohio is even better because if you have evaluating skills, you're going to find guys who other people have missed."

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pberg wrote on January 29, 2013 at 10:01 am

Thank you Mr. Obvious.  Unfortunately the Illini have the wrong coach.  Lets get to this season so we can get a coach who might get his players on the same page.

convertedfan wrote on January 29, 2013 at 10:01 am

It's idiot (such as the one above) that make such omments that hurt the recruiting of quality players... which 3, 4 or 5 star recruit would even consider Illinois when he wonders if the coach will be there the next year.  Let Beckman and his staff do their jobs (selling the program) and keep the negative comments to yourself.

pberg wrote on January 29, 2013 at 1:01 pm

 

2013 Illinois Football Schedule

Aug. 31
Southern Illinois
Memorial Stadium

Sept. 7
Cincinnati
Memorial Stadium

Sept. 14
vs. Washington
Chicago, Ill. (Soldier Field)

Sept. 21
Open
 

Sept. 28
Miami (OH) (Dad's Day)
Memorial Stadium

Oct. 5
at Nebraska
Lincoln, Neb.

Oct. 12
Open

Oct. 19
Wisconsin
Memorial Stadium

Oct. 26
Michigan State (Homecoming)
Memorial Stadium

Nov. 2
at Penn State
University Park, Pa.

Nov. 9
at Indiana
Bloomington, Ind.

Nov. 16
Ohio State
Memorial Stadium

Nov. 23
at Purdue
West Lafayette, Ind.

Nov. 30
Northwestern
Memorial Stadium

Dec. 7
Big Ten Championship Game
Indianapolis, Ind.

Please tell me where in this schedule that the Illini are going to win enough games to attract 3,4,5 star recruits to win more games

convertedfan wrote on January 30, 2013 at 7:01 am

My point exactly... given the current players left over from the Zook era and the schedule above... it's going to be hard for any coach to win.  At least Beckman is getting the 3 stars at this time.  The 4 and 5 stars are not going to come to C-U unless the see wins and stability in the coaching ranks.  Bashing the coach and his staff in this public forum only hurts the recruiting process.  

Moonpie wrote on January 29, 2013 at 2:01 pm

convertedfan--what are you talking about? The gentleman above you simply expressed his view, which is welcome here. The wording -- not terribly negative at all. Actually, it's lockstep reactionaries like you who try to shout down other opinions who add negativity to a chat board. Maybe you've read too much Oracle Tate.

pberg wrote on January 29, 2013 at 3:01 pm

Seems to me that the schedule sets up for a 3-9 season coupled with the 2-10 debut is a two year audit of 5-19.

blmillini wrote on January 31, 2013 at 8:01 am

And how does that differ from most of the last 20 years?  I'll help you... it doesn't!  This program absolutely needs some stability and while year 1 was rough, Thomas and Beckman deserve more than a year to fix what has been broken for decades.

convertedfan wrote on January 30, 2013 at 7:01 am

Moonpie... Bashing the coaching staff does not help the recruiting process nor does it motovate the players. The program's entire culture (including the Beckman Bashers) needs a serious attitude adjustment.  Just keep in mind... Rome wasn't built in a day.  

1 illinifan wrote on January 29, 2013 at 7:01 pm

I hope Thomas has started recruiting for a coach after next season. Maybe this time we can get a real coach, or at least maybe we can move up from Goofy to Mickey.

convertedfan wrote on January 30, 2013 at 7:01 am

Be careful for what you wish for.

Bear8287 wrote on January 31, 2013 at 12:01 am

Unless Coach Beckman does something incredibly stupid and embarrassing, perhaps getting caught violating NCAA regulations like chewing tabacco on the sidelines again or something worse, I fully expect to see him coaching Illinois football for at least two more seasons.

I wish him and the Illini the best of luck.

Go Illini!