Going Green: Clever we are not.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/opinion/19friedman.html

A summary of the above article:

While pollution in China is a  greater problem than in the United States, China sees the virtue for correcting it.   

The European Union, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea — and next year, China — have enacted producer-responsibility laws requiring that anything with a cord or battery — from an electric toothbrush to a laptop to a washing machine — has to be collected and recycled at the manufacturers’ cost.  Thus the recycling costs are built into any product.   Of course recycling costs will work their way into product design.

A U.S. company has developed a way to recover plastics from discarded consumer products, and re-manufacture the result into new plastic, cutting energy usage per unit of new plastic produced by 90%. The U.S. government helped pay t develop this process, but this company's two plants are overseas, where governments require recycling, as noted above.

When it comes to recycling,  the United States is a  Bozo

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RogueWave wrote on September 23, 2010 at 8:09 am

If it weren't for your

If it weren't for your bizarre schizophrenic ramblings about sexism at local jazz establishments, I might actually have read this and taken your arguments seriously. But I can no longer give any credence to whatever you say, so I'm going to go throw a big sack of recyclables into a garbage can instead of a recycling bin. I hope you're proud of yourself, Earth-killer.

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selguy wrote on September 23, 2010 at 2:09 pm

To RogueWave: Are you also

To RogueWave:

Are you also planning to petition the Urbana City Council to terminate the city's recycling program, and the Champaign City Council to reconsider the forthcoming apartment recycling program?

You seem unfamiliar with the meaning of "schizophrenic." Please clarify. Other that you disagree with them, please explain (in the appropriate thread) rwhat you consider bizarre or schizophrenic about the comments concerning the near lack of women guitar, woodwind, brass and drum player at local jazz venues.

The concern about recycling is a much more significant and difficult problem than the number of women playing at local jazz venues. Your comment our nation's recycling deficiencies on this thread is a disservice to the community

RogueWave wrote on September 23, 2010 at 3:09 pm

Schizophrenia is defined as

Schizophrenia is defined as paranoid or bizarre delusions and disorganized speech and thinking, both of which you displayed in your ridiculous sexist jazz bar posts. The fact that you didn't seem to recognize the sarcasm in my other post suggests to me that you might just have Asperger's Syndrome or something of that nature. But I would be very surprised if you don't have some sort of mental impairment. I'm about as pro-feminism as it gets, but I had a good laugh at your sexist jazz bar threads just like, I imagine, everyone else who read them.

selguy wrote on September 24, 2010 at 12:09 am

Please provide examples of

Please provide examples of the schizophrenia you imagine. I remind you of your suggestion that bizarre and untrue imagining is a sign of schizophrenia.

selguy wrote on September 24, 2010 at 12:09 am

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RogueWave wrote on September 24, 2010 at 4:09 am

A sane person does not go to

A sane person does not go to a bar where there a few less women playing than might be expected and decide right then and there that the venue must be run by sexists.

If I owned one of the bars you have accused of sexism in your posts, I could sue you for libel and probably win. That might teach you a lesson about making baseless and insulting claims about a locally owned business.

selguy wrote on September 26, 2010 at 9:09 pm

You were asked to identify

You were asked to identify the schizophrenia you alleged. You failed to do this.

The subsequent exchange of posts have clarified that no owner of any bar has been accused of perpetrating or harboring sexism

Please advise us of the source of your inaccurate knowledge of the law which suggests that a bar owner could possibly sue successfully for libel as a result of any posting on this thread.