Airport Nudie Scans, Yea or Nay or What?
There are so many ways to frame the overall topic, I won't even try.
I'm sorry, not for myself, though, that such shades of "1984" in terms of invasion of privacy (modesty) has had to come to pass for the safety of air passengers.
What is some of your take on the subject, please?
Okay, I'm going to agree with
Okay, I'm going to agree with William_D and buzorro here. I can't believe I just wrote that.
I didn't really think about it until I realized the next time I fly with my 8 year old there is a possibility that the kid would have to go through an enhanced pat down, at which time I would blow a gasket.
This business of taking the entire population and telling them they must submit is outrageous. Yes, I want flying to be safe, but stop shaking down everyone. I know this will likely draw some criticism, but it is not my 64 year old father, or my 8 year old, or me or anyone I know or associate with who is attempting to blow up commercial airplanes. It is a select group of people, who share a similar demographic, and a similar set of religious views. I remember watching a mother with a baby, a toddler, and a kid maybe 10 getting shaken down. She was in tears, the baby was crying, the toddler was climbing on the table. I felt horrible for her. Why waste your time on a soccer mom from Skokie going to see Grandma in Florida?
And for these officials to tell us that we just don't have to fly?!! This is government out of control.
There are the Timothy
There are the Timothy McVeigh's and female/child suicide bombers of the world too so I can't see any clear way to make a distinction. If someone has a specific proposal for security from even a majority of threats with minimal invasiveness, I'd love to hear it. I think the long term solutions are going to involve reducing the motivation of would-be terrorists. Providing more mental services and engaging in more dialogue and cooperation internationally would be a good start. Promotion of education and "adopt a country" programs would be good too. If companies got tax incentives to hire works from the adopted country, it would give the people of those countries gainful employment which would improve their situation and make them less likely to fall into violent behavior. If we're going to outsource anyway, might as well do it productively and not just all to China and India.
If you read real close, I did
If you read real close, I did not call you "stupid". I only stated that your response was "stupid". There is a difference. Not knowing you, I would not call you stupid.
Yeah,....let's imagine that,
Yeah,....let's imagine that, oh...I dunno...that pigs can fly.
I mean, as long as we're imagining...
Those who desire liberty and
Those who desire liberty and security deserve neither. - Ben Franklin
Check it out, Oliver. This subject is going viral. That Judge on FOXEntertainment/News is saying that if this persists, then we are, for all practical purposes, slaves.
Look on one of the most popular websites in the world, drudgereport.com, and you'll see links to dozens of articles from various sources covering this topic.
Why is the US and Israel the only countries pushing this?
The terrorists have won.
What a stupid response.
What a stupid response. People have been able to get explosives on planes and you want to say something as stupid as "pigs can fly". I say if you do not want to follow the guidelines to be able to fly then walk!
Stupid is as stupid
Stupid is as stupid does...Name-calling? How mature...
Personally I think it's obscene to grope three-year olds, nuns, etc. (Yes, this occurs)
I think it's obscene giving airline passengers a choice between being given a dose of radiation or being fondled. You don't think the eeeeevil terrrorists aren't laughing at us?
Follow the money...who's selling these machines? Dual-citizen Israeli Michael Chertoff...
'They came first for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists but I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Etc., etc., ad nauseum...'
Suppose a terrrorist planted an explosive in his wife's breast implant? Hahaha, the possibilities are endless. If you live in fear, go ahead and let your teenage daughter, wife or mother give free nudie pics to the TSA thugs. They keep records of the good ones, ya know?
You know, if a terrorist truly wanted to cause mass murder and mayhem, he wouldn't have to board a plane, just blow up a terminal where lines of sheeple are waiting to be X-rayed or groped.
What, me fly? Nahhh....
Nice to see all these..."it
Nice to see all these..."it can't happen to me' responses. Lets say your wife (husband/mother/child) was on a plane and someone brought it down because they were able to get aboard with hidden explosives, You'd be screaming your head about why wasn't people screened better...blah, blah, blah. Well, I don't care about my privacy if it means that some little kid or some grandmother's life is spared because of someones 'privacy'. Check me anywhere, anyway (as long as it doesn't hurt too bad). The world went thru this when we had to have social security numbers and driver licenses and register for the draft etc etc etc... Get over it.
Not just "Nay" but "HECK
Not just "Nay" but "HECK NAY!" Not only are full body scans an invasion of privacy, but so is just about every other hurdle at an airport (no, that wasn't an OJ reference). We're a nation of bedwetters if we let a bunch of overpaid security guards want to take away our shampoo, shaving gel, etc. One guy halfway around the world tries to blow the heels off his Hush Puppies and the rest of us spend our remaining days of air travel standing in line with our shoes off.
What about that guy who tried to kill a Saudi prince with an explosive device shoved up his...well, you know. I'm surprised we're not submitting to cavity searches because of that guy.
Traveling is a pain because our government over-reacts and our media is a bunch of sensationalistic dullards.
I personally don't have a
I personally don't have a problem with it for myself but I understand others who might. I figure at the point where they're seeing thousands of naked people each day, they're desensitized to nudity similarly to a doctor. I could see having a quick moving line for these scanners and a standard line for those who object.
I agree with William_D that it does seem over-reactionary that one person or event results in so much effort but, then again, I drive everywhere I travel within the U.S. at this point because flying is just too much work and too much money for the benefit. I'd prefer to take the train but it is also expensive and doesn't go everywhere. I also think train security would increase dramatically if it became as popular as some hope, negating many of the benefits to train travel.
I really don't have strong
I really don't have strong feelings one way or the other. however, I would like to know if, when going through these things, the people watching the scans are going to be able to tell the difference between my titanium hip pin and my steel shoulder from a concealed whatever. Is it going to take me 4 hours to explain to them that I have metal parts?
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