Flu Shots

H1N1 vaccine linked to 700 percent increase in miscarriages (link below)

Once again we hear, the pushers selling their wares.
Telling us that we have to be shot or get in arrears.
That their elixir of life is all that we need.
For we and our families to be healthy and in glee. 

Yet something’s do not add up nor does it make sense.
Because so many questions go unanswered are hidden and fenced.
So pull your head out and let you body heal.
Since the shot you just got may actually kill.

Personally I’m always dubious when our government starts yelling about how they’re here to help us. Last years H1N1 hoax was a great example of this and one that makes me stop and wonder just what it is that’s being “delivered” in those little needles.

Here’s what is currently known about flu shots and what you’re not being told by the purchased and manipulated mainstream media.

First, there are thousands of known virus’s. When you get a flu shot you are getting immunized for 1, 2 maybe 3 of those virus’s, which means you are NOT immune from getting another.

Flu rates and deaths in the United States have remained constant over the last 10 years and there is always a significant number of people who die from flu, even though they had received a shot for that flu.

Virtually all flu vaccines are made overseas and to my knowledge no oversight is done by us in their manufacturing. Also, there are no extensive human trials done before their release to ensure our safety, nor are there any independent reviews of their content.

The H1N1 scam was an interesting study in how easily a population can be herded into the health care cattle cars for their soon to be mandatory shot. Although many were aware last year and refused the shot which is why you saw, over and over and over again the faces and voices of those telling you to go get yours.

The Europeans who have public health care system that are designed to deliver health care to every citizen while holding costs down, caught on early to the scam, canceled orders and in some cases sued the Pharmaceuticals for fraud. Which our profit based system here in this country would never do because Pharmaceuticals own the health care industry here.

Not only was last years H1N1 flu rates lower than other flu’s in previous years, it’s death rate among those who had taken it was much higher. Although on the purchased channels of media you would have never known that.

So here we have a mass inoculation using an unknown drug that was never tested on humans that had an abnormally high death rate among those who took it. Meanwhile the CDC promotes the next round of untested injections, ignoring and under reporting the devastating effects of what they have previously done.

Not sure about you but it seems their fulfilling their mission of; “We’re from the Government and here to help YOU!”
http://www.naturalnews.com/030657_vaccines_miscarriages.html

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Penteller wrote on March 10, 2013 at 4:03 pm

For those of you who are

For those of you who are still asleep and missed it, the corporate media briefly mention that this year’s flu vaccine was only about 50% effective and that it was even less effective for the elderly.

Hmmmm…. Say what?

Weren’t we told it was the panacea cure for all Flu’s? That we had to take it or else we would all die? That only by taking a flu shot would we be well and healthy people?

Truth - it’s a relative thing these days and when the government is involved, it’s relatively non existent. Such it is with the flu vaccine where actual protective numbers are 2% or less and that for the elderly it was probably not effective at all.
http://www.naturalnews.com/039422_flu_vaccines_elderly_failure.html

But don’t worry, they’ll come around next year with some new snake oil and tell us all again how wonderful it is and how we MUST take the medicine or else.

Sid Saltfork wrote on March 12, 2013 at 11:03 am

Please, take your medicine. 

Please, take your medicine.  It would help you get over the conspiracy theory fantasies.

Penteller wrote on February 01, 2013 at 3:02 am

In the sick room, ten cents'

In the sick room, ten cents' worth of human understanding equals ten dollars' worth of medical science.  ~Martin H. Fischer

Rsp,

Insubordination – could it be that he knew the truth and became a threat to the interest of the medical capitalists? And here is some great logic along the same lines, did you know there are no bears around my house because a family friend living a few miles away has a bear gun!

Just because you’ve had your immune system tickled each year and artificially kicked into overdrive, does not mean you’re more healthy and able to withstand viral attacks. There are other ways of dealing with yearly reparatory distress that are considerably more healthy than unknown injections. For instance, do you take Vitamin D - if not, your general health is at considerable risk, particularly your immune system, especially in the late winter early spring.

As for influenza trends, where did you get the idea they were statistically going down? As always you can tell when a lie is being committed such as Ethanol, Wind Power, etc, as you will NEVER see statistics in their favor. And why? Because there are none! So if you can find me any information about flu rates trending down over the last 20 years, please provide them, as I have yet to find any! Once more, exposing the devious and criminal nature that is our government.

But then making lifetime patients out of semi healthy people is the goal in most of today’s medicine. http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/01/31/the-hidden-connection-behind-virus...

There is a huge difference between a vaccine to eradicate a singular virus such as polio or smallpox, versus the unknown number and ever mutating influenza variants, that can be forcibly mutating further with every round of mass inoculation. A never ending chase that can ultimately result in compromised immune systems left vulnerable to forced mutative strains, created through over compensative virus vaccines.

And no, having smallpox is not something anyone would want, but how about some cancer - compliments of former vaccines?. http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/vaccines-the-true-weapons-of-mass-de.... .

Did you know the best cure for pinkeye is breast milk, the second is raw milk and that the Amish who drink raw milk have no allergies? So why do you think the powers who profit from our illnesses, are shutting down across the country, every healthy supply they can?
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/final-fda-raid-and-takeover-of.html

The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures the disease.  ~Voltaire

Sid Saltfork wrote on February 01, 2013 at 4:02 pm

Yeah.... it all is a

Yeah.... it all is a conspiracy.  Wear you tinfoil lined caps, folks.

Penteller wrote on January 27, 2013 at 4:01 am

"Official data shows that

"Official data shows that large scale vaccination has failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases against which they were supposed to provide protection" --Dr Sabin, developer of Polio vaccine.

Alabaster,
I responded to your statement/question of “… I really hope you don't seriously believe that the News Gazette has ever printed an article in response to one of your posts.”, in the Media Manipulation thread.

As for “the healthiest people dying and cytokine storm’s – both are mere diversions to the real issue of unsafe, ineffective and potentially catastrophic vaccines.

And define healthy!

I’d love to see any information that showed only the healthy people died of H1N1 flu’s.

Just because someone takes Statins that keeps cholesterol numbers inside the “official” limits and qualifying them as “healthy” in today’s medical paradigm, does not mean they will survive a health crisis when their heart and blood vessels are calcified from the Statins.

As for a cytokine storm, the immune system can malfunction at any time. My son’s Scout Master, went from a strapping 6”2” fit and robust man to a shriveled and dying skeleton in just a few months. After many tests it was determined his immune system was malfunctioning and attacking his body, after beginning to receive regular steroidal transfusions to compensate for the breakdown, he went back to a more normal state.

The West Nile virus nearly destroyed many of the bird populations here in the Midwest, particularly the crow population. Like all species including ourselves, the genetic diversity within the crow, allowed for a selected few to survive the devastation and begin now to rebuild the population, a population now immune to that particular strain of West Nile.

There are countless examples of bad medicine being practiced every day, due to the “profiteering” of the medical cartels, made possible through politician purchases.  A vast majority of doctors surveyed, reported they would never take chemotherapy, for a very good reason. Not only does it not work in most cases to prolong life, it causes even greater breakdowns in the body’s natural defense systems.
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/shock-study-chemotherapy-backfire-cancer-worse-triggering-tumor-growth-article-1.1129897

As for vaccines effectiveness, more and more evidence is leaking out from the medical cartel’s drug empires, where profits are king and secrecy supreme.
http://www.naturalnews.com/038812_vaccines_childhood_deaths_toxic_chemicals.html

The side effects keep on coming, destroying and crippling an entire generation of people in the process, such as narcolepsy triggered by swine flu shots. Sleep my pretty sleep...
http://12160.info/xn/detail/2649739:Topic:1101525?xg_source=activity

Speaking of sleep, just lay back and soak up the mind control news and pay no attention to the group that recently created an even more viral strain of flu that could wipe out humanity, has now been given permission to continue.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2267478/Deadly-GM-flu-res...

And pay no attention to the fact that through mass vaccine distribution we are in the long run altering our DNA, in ways we have absolutely no way of understanding, nor do we possess the capacity in correcting the future devastation we are now engineering.

"There is no evidence that any influenza vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza. The producers of these vaccines know that they are worthless, but they go on selling them, anyway." -- Dr. J. Anthony Morris (formerly Chief Vaccine Control Officer at the US Federal Drug Admin.

rsp wrote on January 27, 2013 at 9:01 pm

What's the rate of polio in

What's the rate of polio in the United States? I'm just curious if you know. How about in other countries? Dr. Morris was fired for insubordination like 40 years ago. If the flu vaccine is so worthless how come the death rates from flu are down? Why did I stop getting the flu after I started getting the shot every year? Before that I was very sick and would end up with pneumonia. Must be magic. 

SaintClarence27 wrote on January 27, 2013 at 10:01 pm

I don't know about anyone

I don't know about anyone else, but I am a big fan of not having smallpox.

alabaster jones 71 wrote on January 22, 2013 at 12:01 am
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Chances are, getting a flu

Chances are, getting a flu shot won't cause any significant health problems.

Of course, chances are also very high that getting the flu won't cost you anything more than a couple days sick in bed eating chicken soup.

Really, only folks with poor health should be getting a flu shot.  I don't share Penteller's alarmism regarding the likelihood of negative consequences due to flu shots, but he raises some good points.   It is pretty ridiculous how hard the pharmaceutical industry pushes flu shots for everyone, instead of only those with vulnerable health.  Perhaps most disgusting is how heavy they market them to mothers, telling them to get their kids flu shots.  I think the moms that fall for that are the same ones that spray Lysol all over their house and on all their kid's toys.  Germs and illnesses are good for children.  They have to build up antibodies somehow.

The SARS and swine flu scams were perfect examples of how easy it is for the pharmaceutical industry to scare people into buying their medicine.

alabaster jones 71 wrote on January 26, 2013 at 11:01 pm
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Well, perhaps I would

Well, perhaps I would consider getting a flu shot if there was a particularly dangerous strain going around that year.  Getting one every year though?  One of these years they will be telling us we need to get vaccinated against the common cold too.

rsp wrote on January 22, 2013 at 5:01 pm

Most of the people who died

Most of the people who died from the h1n1 flu were the healthiest people. They don't know why they died or got so sick so fast. They were also in the healthiest age group. 

SaintClarence27 wrote on January 23, 2013 at 8:01 am

Same with the Spanish Flu -

Same with the Spanish Flu - it caused a cytokine storm, which is where the immune system attacks healthy cells. Healthy immune systems were actually MORE dangerous.

Penteller wrote on January 20, 2013 at 6:01 pm

 The road to medical

 The road to medical knowledge is through the pathological museum and not through an apothecary's shop.  ~William Withey Gull

rsp

Woooo, spot on!
I’ve often wondered how much he gets paid to troll?

And speaking of trolling as in idling along and watching for the bobber to bob, I came across this wonderful piece by the CBC (eh?) on why there are such outrageous numbers on Influenza cases. It’s because they don’t actually track them, it’s all a guess.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/11/22/flu-deaths-crowe.html

Here in Amerika the CDC does the same thing and they also include people who die from heart failure, diabetes, hang nail, hair loss and any other number of deaths. to come up with their terror numbers to herd the folks into the awaiting needles. Also, not all states even report their numbers to the CDC and they certainly do not do widespread testing for Influenza as there is no procedure in place for testing all deaths. So it’s wild speculation on their part.
http://www.naturalnews.com/029124_flu_vaccines_quackery.html

Once again, NG may respond to these recent posts like they have in the past, with an AP or Reuters article by an NWO reporter, listing some of the numbers. Total numbers, that mean nothing as they are impossible to compare and why you don’t see any comparative numbers, because to publish them is to expose the fraud that is the Flu Pandemic Hype.

If there were any real journalist around, they would go to the U of I and enlist a few statistical folks to look into this and report back. But then again you can’t do that, because any self respecting mathematician would immediately call into question the fraudulent models the CDC uses.

So on que, our media lapdogs continue their barking and the sheeple run for the pen.

"In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. "An agreement was reached; the policy if the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers." - U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway

alabaster jones 71 wrote on January 22, 2013 at 12:01 am
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"Once again, NG may respond

"Once again, NG may respond to these recent posts like they have in the past, with an AP or Reuters article by an NWO reporter, listing some of the numbers."

 

LOL, what?  Please tell me I misinterpreted this sentence.  I really hope you don't seriously believe that the News Gazette has ever printed an article in response to one of your posts.

Sid Saltfork wrote on January 21, 2013 at 3:01 pm

What happened in 1919 all

What happened in 1919 all across the world?  You might want to refer to it in your comments.  It was not just a revolution, or a fiscal collapse.  It involved all ages, genders, and races.  It was not a virus concocted by the Kaiser at the end of the war so relax your conspiracy attitude.  It was not secretly sent to "Amerika".  It came to America openly, and slowly.  You can spout conspiracy theory 24/7; but any intelligent person knows that the various strains of flu kill.  Why would any sane person encourage others to refuse flu shots? Even conspiracy nuts should have their flu shots.  Although if that group refused the vaccine, it might assist democracy. 

On second thought.......  If you agree with Pen, do not have a flu shot!  It is your right as an "Amerikan" to refuse a flu shot!  Do not let the guberment tell you what to do!!

Penteller wrote on January 17, 2013 at 8:01 pm

“Disease is the biggest money

“Disease is the biggest money maker in our economy.” ― John H. Tobe

For those of you who are awake and paying attention, the last couple of weeks has been a real hoot. And you can almost set your watch by when these things happen.

First came the scattered reports of truth that the flu season had started early, was about normal and had been tapering off over the last weeks of 2012. Then our owners turned loose their media Rottweiler called Reuters and other “feed” sources, to maul the escaping truth and herd the sheeple back into the awaiting pen for their regular sheep dip.

This howling by the Illuminati wolves has continued for the last couple of weeks, penetrating every level of the “official” media channels. It was a fanatical backlash that had national and local reporters nearly red faced and apologetic in telling the original truth, as they teleprompted their new lines, written by those who own them.

Reuters of course, is just one of “the” most important dis-informational organizations that the New World Order owns, because most of the other reporting medias use Reuters and AP as the De facto voice of God in news.

But then, this is not the first time Reuters has been loose with the truth or complicit in crime, and never mind any factual comparative information in the story, because who is going to challenge the God of news? Certainly no local paper that rely heavily upon them?
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/reuters-spins-flu-story.html

Not surprisingly, there are no reported comparative facts about flu vaccines effectiveness, a vaccine that over the last decade has made virtually no difference in flu rates. However there does seem to be some comedy in this event, as the media for the first time, has reported in this news cycle that flue vaccines are only effective 2/3 of the time. A kind of “if we can’t report the whole truth, we’ll report a piece of it”.
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/the-shocking-lack-of-evidence.html

What I really love about all of this is how ignorant people are. Most believe that a flu shot keeps all flu’s away, apparently failing basic biology in middle school. But then ignorance is what they want, sheeple to stand in line for a false sense of security, to receive a vaccine of unknown origins, manufactured through unaudited processes that contain potentially dangerous foreign substances.

Dangers that those who are in the know, pay attention to and why they refuse to take them. You know what this means? It this trend continues, soon there will be more laws for “caregivers” to be vaccinated or loose their jobs.
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/01/16/front-line-workers-and-pregnant-women-in-droves-shun-flu-vaccine/

An acquaintances at work told me of an event in mid December, where his girlfriend was at her last checkup before delivering their baby girl. The doctor was literally screaming at her to take a flu shot, telling her that if she didn’t have a flue shot her baby would die! But then his BMW baby probably “needs a new pair of shoes” and he knows just how to pay for them.
http://news.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/doctors-getting-paid-to-prescribe-drugs/

Ignorance – it’s the intellectual level you achieve when you never question what you’re told!

“Time and time again, throughout the history of medical practice, what was once considered as "scientific" eventually becomes regarded as "bad practice".” ― David Stewart

Sid Saltfork wrote on January 18, 2013 at 7:01 pm

The author gave his opinion. 

The author gave his opinion.  One person responded. The next four comments were from the author.  My comment is the sixth comment to the author's initial opinion.  Six comments to the author's initial opinion, and four comments in sucession are from the author.  The author believes that everything is a conspiracy.  The "New World Order" is out to get you stuff.  This time it is the conspiracy of flu shots.  One has to wonder......

rsp wrote on January 19, 2013 at 9:01 am

I encourage everyone to

I encourage everyone to always get their flu shots. They save lives so we can spend more time trolling the internets. 

Penteller wrote on March 04, 2011 at 5:03 pm

"What was a bit surprising

"What was a bit surprising when we looked at some of the data from Canada and Hong Kong in the last year is that people who have been vaccinated in 2008 with the seasonal or ordinary vaccine seemed to have twice the risk of getting swine flu compared to the people who hadn't received that vaccine," he said. - Professor Peter Collignon
http://snardfarker.ning.com/profiles/blogs/data-shows-flu-vaccines-doubl...

Not Really!

The point of diminishing return has now occurred and of course this years seizures don’t help anything. To take care of those pesky little issues like lawsuits and their liabilities against profitability, you simply get a law passed that makes it against the law to sue the manufactures, even if the vaccine kills.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/22/AR201102...
Man you gotta admire their resourcefulness!

So what will happen next, a contrived pandemic of some sort and mandatory shots of course - have to keep those profits flowing you know!

“We'll make those ignorant people take those designer prion’s, whether they like it or not!” – White House Souse

Penteller wrote on February 18, 2011 at 7:02 pm

Un Frippin

Un Frippin Believable!

Although it’s not the exact word of preferred use in this case, it is however the only socially acceptable term that can be expressed in public, while still conveying the utter frustration and outrage being felt.

One of the more unique aspects of my life is how a force beyond the temporal, seems to choose the timing and direct the content of my posts here. Even keeping me from sleep until writing about things of which I sometimes do not wish to post, but must if any peace is to be achieved.

Then there are the interventions.

One such example was last evening where I was writing about the seeming lack of the health care system, in promoting this years flu shots. The assumption was that due to the statistically large number of cases world wide, of infants having seizures after receiving this years flu shot that our health overlords had decided to temper their promotion and let things run their course.

About the time I was half way through writing the piece, my wife stumbled past the door in a delirious state, asking for a hot cup of water. After being bed ridden most of the day with a serious head cold, she was making an attempt at rallying. In response my computer was immediately turned off and assistance rendered.

It was a real medical assistance in action. Where all comfort is proved, thus allowing the body to do what it does best - take an unknown virus as it attacks the body, learn its DNA signature over hours or days and as it controls and eventually kills it with fever. Once accomplished the body is left with that specific virus’s code, so that the next time it tries its assault on the body, the virus is swiftly destroyed.

The body - a most efficient killing machine indeed and why each virus has a specific kill point, such as a bodies temperature of 99.6, or say 102.5, or 100.9a, etc.

So as I rushed to my sweethearts assistance, frustrated by the fact that the written piece, which was nearly finished, was gone and another day and restless sleep would pass before getting it out.

Then came the 10:00 news and a local TV station known for its highly regressive diatribes by it’s corporate mouthpiece, who drones on and on about all evils liberal. A bias media outlet licensed by us, who regularly breaks their public trust by never allowing rebuttal to their diatribes by way of corporate domination.

It was the quintessential example of how today’s media no longer sticks to reporting news but makes it up when in their best interest. Once again, proving the motto that all you have to do is follow the money, in order to find the criminals and their intent. As health care today is all about money and those who profit from its practice and marketing, with little to do about health or cures.

The tabloid report was all about how schools in the area were experiencing large numbers of students being absent due to illness, hinting that it probably was the flu. Then they jumped to the ubiquitous hospital doctor in the exam room, who talked about washing hands and such, eventually mentioning that everyone should go and get their flu shot.

In short, the TV sensation piece that was tabloid journalism at its best, implied, validated and promoted a medical procedure that probably had nothing to do with the illness involved.

The public deception station, did mentioned in a barely audible and quickly passed point that “NO” flu’s had been confirmed in the schools events, yet leaped to the suggestion of an Influenza event and repeated promotion of a drug solution.

There have been so many times that people will deride those who point out instances of conspiracies, but once again here is an instance one has to wonder. A large corporate media group station, promoting a drug that has made no significant impact on flu cases or deaths over the last ten years, whose manufactures are all overseas with no oversight, manufacturing drugs with god knows what in them, distributed here in mass.

Of course two things are certain, today’s media receives billions in advertizing dollars from the pharmaceutical industry of which increases drug cost. Then, there are the three question you will never see asked or reported by todays corporate media, because to do so, is to threaten not only their income but those who sport the double serpent insignia.

1.) Are those cases of flu being reported the same strain of flu given in this years vaccine, or is it different and would occur anyway because it wasn’t the one given?
2.) How many of those getting the same flu, had received the flue shot?
3.) How many of those that died from the same flu, had received the flu shot?

Today the wife is feeling much better, a pizza is in the oven and I’m headed there to enjoy it and her company, comforted in the fact that of the thousands of known virus that can attack the human body, she has one less that she need not worry about.an

Penteller wrote on January 16, 2011 at 12:01 pm

I believe that my doctor

I believe that my doctor would never do me harm. I believe that all medicines are good for me. I believe that the international pharmaceuticals always do their dudiligance and properly test every vaccine before it’s released. I believe that the America’s medical system is the best in the world and can take care of anything I have wrong. I believe that my insurance company will cover any and all my ills that I may get. I believe that there is a pill for anything I have wrong. I believe there are cures for any disease I may get. I believe my doctor will give me every option available to me for a cure. I believe he will always be honest with me and tell me the truth even if it will upset me. I believe I’ll take another one of my mood pills now to keep me happy some more…..

News you’ll never hear through our controlled media.
“The decision… came 11 days ago, following more than a dozen deaths in Greater Manchester, including three in Bury, as well as that of three-year-old Lana Ameen, who died on Boxing Day soon after falling ill in nearby Stockport.
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/01/doctors-ordered-to-stop-giving-flu-j...

Pretender wrote on December 13, 2010 at 6:12 pm

How about that Propoxyphene

How about that Propoxyphene (Darvon and Darvocet)? Took from 1957 till recently to determine that it was messing with people's hearts.............