http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OW4A-yd9BI
Just in time to distract the sheeple from the faked birth certificate....
So buz,
If an event like 911 that is perpetrated by one group who makes it look like another group did it, is called a "False Flag", what do you call the post of the same nature?
Of course you can always tell when we are on the mark and have spoken the truth, because never is there a logical argument against any point, just personal attacks on our character.
"It is well for people who think to change their minds occasionally in order to keep them clean. For those who do not think, it is best to at least rearrange their prejudices once in a while." - Luther Burbank
I am sofa king tired of dinks dogging Obama. If the repugs would get out of the way, he could fix alot of things. It is only a matter of time before the repugs run a corporation for president since the supreme court said that they are people.
Who else is tired of the conspiracy loudmouths dominating the News-Gazette Forums?
Virtually all western capital buildings have Masonic symbols and holy places situated inside and in the lowest level of the building.
Congress is owned and controlled by a very small and select group of money men who are allowed to create financial bubbles such as the housing market, then have us pay for their crimes as they reward themselves with unheard of bonus’s as we pay off their debt.
The military has become the end all, in all that we do, laying waste to vast cultures and stirring up more trouble in cultures with memories lasting thousands of years. A vast world wide industrial machine that has convinced the ignorant population that they are the last best chance for our future, keeping staffed not by patriotism but by lack of jobs back home.
Staged terrorist events are perpetrated in such fashion that the sheeple will disavow the laws of physics in order to believe the lie. Will ignore all logic and disbelieve any truth in order to wallow in the anger and hate created through the guile of those who profit from their ignorance.
Our freedoms are daily taken away and replaced with hobnailed crushing controls and the people are trained to want more. People so connected and manipulated that some were institutionalized after tornado’s swept through their southern communities, because their access through their electronic devices were severed.
Well documented and increasingly overt actions by groups like the Builderbergs, Rothchild’s and others in the formation and activities of The New World Order are ignored and disavowed by the sheeple. Masses who are trained and now given technical means to report those whom they question, under the guise of Homeland Security.
As radiation pours onto our soils and the oceans are poisoned by Japan, housing has much much more to collapse, the world turns against our warring ways and moves to kill the dollar as reprisal, our media owned by a very small group of men keep the American people ignorant and blind.
The Pharmastical’s who never produce cures but only lifelong management pills, continue poisoning us with things like mercury as they daily buy our leadership through campaign funding. All the while, the Universities whose tax payer programs that produced much of the original cures we now enjoy, have their funding reduced.
Meanwhile the agricultural industry owned by international corporations has us eating genetically modified foods laced with chemical toxins made desirable by nano-flavors that penetrate taste bud cell membranes, all made possible by their purchase of our politicians.
Without question the population believes any story that our government tells, never questioning the interest of those who told it or following the money trail. Taking at face value all they are told and never demanding that proof be given in the claims asserted by those who practice the most vile of guile.
As the Monarch Slaves who rule and entertain us screw up and sleep in seedy $3000 dollar a night rooms without their body guards, rape the help and flee, the sheeple are mesmerized by the saga. Power, so complete and corrupt that now out of office by the IMF, the perpetrator will get over $300,000 a year in retirement, funded by our tax payer dollars.
A brutal man like so many others who rule the world, gathering yearly in a places like the Bohemian Grove to enjoy unbridled debauchery in occult rituals. Men who are members of the most secret of secret societies, a world wide fraternity who manipulate the masses, pillaging the people for their own gain as they plot their generational crimes.
So you can claim we are the ones who are wrong, you can disavow all that we say and ignore the facts as they may be. But in the end we understand what is coming because we have studied the past and through our observation of the present can anticipate the future.
The irony in all of this? No third party of any kind can verify the Osama claims. No one conducting the operations or anyone involved in any manner can be interviewed. No verification of any kind can be given, no confirmation of any kind can be obtained as the masses believe all they are told. Yet we are the ones who cannot be trusted?
Now that’s training of the masses, any phyops commander can be proud of!
What’s next?
Chicago.
They will teach Obama a lesson and through his rage he will do their bidding .
As for the Fox link of Osama's "Dec. '01 death", well, it must've been a mistaken ID.I'm sure the rest of the media (and the administration) would have made Osama's death as big a deal then as it was last week. ,^,
It must be terrible to live in a constant state of paranoia. Everyone here sans Penn would agree with me I think when I say please seek help buz!
No, you're being paranoid. It was a horrible day. Mistakes were made. Confusion ruled. Your "evidence" contradicts with logic. Bush was in on it because he made a comment about seeing the first crash? If he's so smart to be in on something this grand and risk his life by committing treason, don't you think he'd be smart enough not to give away himself so easily? Isn't it more plausible that he simply misspoke or misremembered?
But why apply logic and reasoning to understand motives? That certainly wouldn't be critically thinking.
As I've said before, your continued insistence in proving some grand series of conspiracies detracts from dealing with real problems caused by real humans making honest attempts to run a productive government. Let's fix the problems we can and leave the grand conspiracies alone until we have all other problems fixed. Tell us what's really bothering you and maybe we can discuss solutions. There is no solution to an NWO takeover of our money and liberties.
Time to sign off.
Trying to reason and apply logic in a conversation with paranoid and illogical people?
You gotta wonder at what point we ask ourselves the question: Why am I doing this? Do I have so much time on my hands that I am spending it trying to have this conversation?
I think I know what's going on here. I think that Penteller and Buzorro are actually part of the psych ops team from the government. All day long they're working, putting out feelers on message boards all over the country in small town newspapers, to see who is capable of being swayed over to their way of thinking. Then those sheeple gullible enough to be persuaded are taken away in white vans, and placed in a double secret prison camp in Karplakistan. There, in the steamy, dark, stonewalled bowels of a 13th century castle basement, sits a state of the art 're-education' camp, where they are trained to become Jason Bourne type assassins. But they don't kill anyone, they just sneak up on young families, and teach their children the Slug Bug game, and sometimes 'two for flinching,' just to make sure the game isn't lost on the new generation.
Believe it, or you are a no better than a cow grazing in a field, or a sheep in line to be shaven.
I don't believe the United States government. I know they are lying.
And I don't believe the big media like FOX and CBS.
But then what to believe?
Certainly not anything not supported by facts. FACTS.
Youtube videos are not FACTS.
Facts are subjective to a conspiracy theorist. Everything is on the table, except for what evidence either does or doesn't exist that helps to prove their theories.
I like to read Buzorro and Penteller, but I'm not buying what they're selling.
Winners write the history books, ergo winners write the facts. You have to come to your own logical conclusions given the information available.
In the meantime you go to work, mow the yard, and love your family, pay your taxes. That's all there is to it.
Winners write the propaganda maybe. They write the history books, that is true. But it doesn't follow that ergo they write the facts. The facts are still there to be found, if you look in the right places. That is why one has to critically examine and question everything to get to the truth. What we were taught in school was also written by the winners, by the way.
So Buzz and Pent are right. Most citizens are heavily indoctrinated and we are inundated by government propaganda constantly. Most citizens do not critically search out Truth and accept everything the Government says to them. And most citizens are ignorant and more interested in what's on TV.
But the numerous links provided for their theories are just rubbish websites written by people with a partisan agenda and without actual facts and evidence.
Until at least 2 agree on what are the basic facts, a reasoned argument cannot take place. The conversation just becomes the Monty Python-Argument Clinic skit.
Buzz I read the Fox News link. Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
All they are saying is that the Pakistan Observer reported this. They cited a Taliban leader who says he was at the funeral.
A Taliban leader might have good reasons to lie about OBL don't you think?
Pakistan is a country that is swamped with conspiracy theories, it is like a national pass time there. Most Pakistanis actually believe what Pent and Buzz say: OBL was not killed in the Obama navy seals raid. The majority of Pakistanis side with Buzz.
Buzz I read the Fox News link. Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.
All they are saying is that the Pakistan Observer reported this. They cited a Taliban leader who says he was at the funeral.
A Taliban leader might have good reasons to lie about OBL don't you think?
Pakistan is a country that is swamped with conspiracy theories, it is like a national pass time there. Most Pakistanis actually believe what Pent and Buzz say: OBL was not killed in the Obama navy seals raid. The majority of Pakistanis side with Buzz.
What do I think of it?! I never read that story, but now that I have, I've changed my mind.
I completely believe 100% that because an unamed, unidentified, unverifiable, Taliban leader told a reporter down at the ole' Pakistani Oberserver that Bin Laden died in '01 and he attended the funeral but the site of the grave disapearred, it must be the undenieable, absolute truth. No question that the U.S. completely faked everything to keep the New World Order in tact, based on this concrete evidence.
Even after everything Buz and myself have written, with all the links we’ve provided, it’s still a mystery to you all? No wonder the scriptures talk about how the vast majority of the population will be blind to truth when the end comes.
Goal: New World Order. Single currency, single point of social control, small number of elitist who control every aspect of our slavehood, including the reduction of the population by up to 70% so that our species can survive on the remaining limited resources.
All governmental agencies have become the muscle for those who are now in control. Preservation based institutions that will destroy anything that tries to restrict their powers and growth. This includes the vast Offensive Based Military Complex that has more than 40% of its budget never audited and now sports a division whose sole purpose is social manipulation.
The CIA, our most secretive and completely non-auditable institution has a 60 year history of destructive practices that are counter to not only our Constitution but the very tenant upon which our Founding Fathers struggled to achieve.
Like Buz said, Americans today are trained to think in 30 second sound bites. They also live with 30 year mortgages and dream of 30 year jobs, the only country on the planet that has adult juveniles, mentally.
The rest of the world lives in homes hundred of years old, on lands inhabited by thousand year ancestry’s and history going back even further. That’s why Americans cannot fathom a plan hundreds of years in the making, which now comes down to the final solutions, through decades-long process of individual implementation.
In short, the plan is coming together nicely as the ignorant and blind people become usury slaves owing money forever to the Masters who keep them hungry as the people’s institutions become the guards of the inmates toiling to support the intelligentsia.
Come on! Just look at the Federal Reserve. An private institution we cannot audit, whose owners we do not know, controlling all aspects of our currency that has over last several months been buying up our Federal Bonds since nobody else wants them. A ultra secret organization that has devalued the dollar as it rewarded their fraternity of partners, who crashed the housing market then make us pay them for doing so, all the while making record profits and formerly unheard of bonus’s.
With all of that in plain sight, wouldn’t logic dictate that a little covert operation could be easily achieved.
From an eventually trusted courier the people got instructions and money flowed from an unknown source. The group followed their instructions and played the part of decoy in the great struggle a hundred years old. When all was in place and everything covered, the location was leaked and the vast blind machine of war was activated.
Administrations were empowered, assets assigned and personnel trained for months as the decoy was maintained and data inserted by the 1 or 2 key operatives that built the Trojan Horse.
The go given, the Strom Troopers stomping on all international conventions and treaties, shot, killed, retrieved and delivered a body and the surrounding data. Someone was assigned to receive the remains from our forces, remains that were promptly processed and then disposed of so no remaining evidence could be ascertained by any third party.
To ensure jubilant celebrations back home for a job well done and continued support, a military psyops plan was activated and new software running on powerful machines took over, herding the young savages into the streets in record numbers, validating the purchase of advanced social manipulation software and showing “The Beast’s” power.
Then as one young man with an obvious social conscience questioned the lunacy he saw - that same software was more than likely used to gently trigger rage against him. It was a perfect diversion and end to the plan, one that could not be anticipated but a bonus trailer to wagging the dog, none the same.
How dare a public sports figure questioning the imperial power of a society who spends half of its federal budget on a Offensive Based Military Machine, more than the rest of the world combined. A society that has nearly 1000 military installation world wide, has a first strike mandate, gives Billions of dollars each year to brutal regimes that control their people through billion dollar military hardware supplies.
So I guess it’s true. The most obvious is the most in-obvious and that the bigger the lie the better the chances are in its believability.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country... corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
--Abraham Lincoln, 1864
Wow, Lincoln was way off, huh? I mean "near future" and we haven't seen the Republic destroyed nearly 150 years later. Thanks for highlighting that quote which, if true, shows that Lincoln is not a credible source.
To the issue, though, I have to say that the amount of work that this NWO organization must go through to acquire and maintain this power is mindboggling. I'm mean I'm mentally exhausted just reading your summarization of their efforts and I can't imagine what it must take to hire thousands of cutting edge scientists to generate breakthrough drugs and mind-altering techniques of control in massive secrecy but in plain sight, paying those scientists untold millions for their participation and inclusion in this secretive society while violating any moral, ethical, or familial conscience they might have. Same goes for the thousands of field agents and soldiers of fortune that must be involved at various levels of local, state, national, international, and corporate goverment as a sleeper agent for decades waiting for their moment to strike. This is all pulled off without a hitch - no trace or evidence of their actions. If this is the case, I must be plugged into the Matrix and brain washed myself because I cannot fathom such an endeavor being a success.
What is more fathomable to me, however, is human nature at play. People who wind up in power more often than not get there through connections and money as that is the only way to advertise yourself to thousands of voters who don't personally know you. Those with the connections and money, being humans, do so not out of the kindness of their heart but because they hope to extract some personal financial benefit in return. The elected official is then put in a situation where they must choose between re-election or their conscience. They often go with their re-election but try to maintain a precarious balance between the two, trying to do what they believe is right as much as possible while still getting re-elected to maintain their power and financial status. Again, nothing out of the ordinary or unexpected here, just human nature at play. No grand conspiracy needed to introduce corruption and profiteering in the process. Just people doing what people do.
I think focusing on the specific problems and not some theoretical grand conspiracy is much more productive. Don't like politicians owing an allegiance to a contributor? Bring back sortition to democracy. Want to eliminate state deficits? Advocate for a balanced financial statement amendment for the constitution. Want to switch to a graduated state tax rate? Advocate for a constitutional amendment for that. Disagree with the decision to use military forces in country XYZ? Get your representatives to defund those initiatives using sortition if needed to ensure the representative truly represents his or her constituents and is not solely influenced by financial contributors.
Shampoolife is an idealist.
So which one of these credible sources are you citing to support the claim that OBL died 10 years ago?
I just don't follow your logic.
So which one of these credible sources are you citing to support the claim that OBL died 10 years ago?
I just don't follow your logic.
My wife is a lefty but uses her right hand for the remote. I'm going to need more "proof" than that.
OBL hadn't moved his left arm in several videos. Analysts believe that he sustained a significant injury to his left arm during the Tora Bora battle. Videos after that battle show his left arm not moving. The video of him watching TV is consistent with this narrative since he is not using his left hand.
So the lefty with the injured left arm or hand, is using the remote in his right.
I'm going to take the trouble and give you the benefit of the doubt one last time Buzz.
Where can I find pictures of Osama Bin Laden's ears so I can compare and see for myself?
The home video I know how to find.
I will compare the left ear images for myself.
I am interested in examining this evidence. How did you do your comparison?
Worthless link to a conspiracy type web site. Why is Joe Quinn credible? Because he wrote something or other about OBL ears that makes what he wrote a fact? This guy doesn't back up anything he says. He provides links to other liars and that is it.
You misunderstood Buzz. I don't trust rubbish web sites.
What I meant is: I want to see the photos of Bin Laden ears so I can try to compare with the low quality video of the impostor or OBL watching the little TV.
I don't want to read what some liar wrote about it.
First off the ear in the video shows little detail and the image is very poor. I don't know how I or anyone else could honestly compare it to anything.
I have not been able to find a high quality photo anywhere of OBL ears.
By the way, don't believe 75% of what's in the Drudge. Matt Drudge is Republican political operative of the Tea Bagger stripe. He is partisan and biased.
To thechampaignlife: I'm not going to try to add anything to this conversation except to say that if there were a "like" button here as on Facebook, I'd've clicked it for your last 2 posts, esp. the last. You have detected a "spin" that tries to have it both ways..It's always kinda hard to prove there's no invisible monkey on your shoulder. 'v'
“The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Hermann Goering, the Nazi Reichsmarshall, April 18, 1946
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From those same people who wrote the 911 story comes the next installment in the terror series – "Death by Imperial Storm Troopers!” Brought to you by the worlds number 1 killing machine - US.
This one is an absolute classic!
So let me see if I can get this right.
A guy who has to do regular dialysis, runs around for years in some of the most rugged mountains in the world, eluding our troops as the rest of the world goes about their lives, building bigger business connections around the globe.
Finally, he decides to retire to a compound in Pakistan and continue his occasional broadcasts of defiance, whenever the news cycle needs his smiling face. Then “we” get a "lead," a “tip” that the evil man is living a life of luxury, surrounded by his wife and children, staff, their wives and kids.
So the President pulls the trigger and sends in the Black Ops who are above the law and can do anything they please, anywhere, anytime. Based on “Intellegence” information (which we know is always accurate), we chopper in, aboard the newest and top secret, Stealth Black Hawk helicopters.
In landing, one of the choppers takes fire from the compound, causing it to crash land. The “kill team”, never intending to bringing real justice, takes the compound, shooting a mother in the leg as she tries to rush past them after her fleeing and terrified children.
The unarmed (ever see a picture of Osama without a weapon) lookalike decoy is now murdered, dead on the floor. An Atta boy is probably heard in the Oval Office as they munch on the snacks a staffer got from COSCO for the occasion – GAME OVER – TOUCHDOWN! Another chopper comes in, the Kill Team along with their trophy body and materials seized from the compound are now flown back to safety.
Upon their leaving, one of our most advanced military hardware assets is blown up and the remnants collected the next day, probably sold to Pakistan’s close ally the Chinese. Perfect study material, just like the stealth fighter that crashed in the Balkans during that war, which the Chinese bought up from the locals and used in developing their own, now operational stealth aircraft
Upon return, the body was delivered to an awaiting small group of men (probably CIA) who then processed the body and then conveniently disposed of it for all time. The only evidence left if they haven't been destoryed already - DNA samples handled by even fewer people, DNA testing done in record time.
In all, fewer than 4 or 5 key people in the right positions, planting the right “intel” and handling the right evidence, could fool not only the Kill Team and their entire support system, but the Presidency as well.
But the most important thing in all of this is not that a "look alike" decoy who never left a compound, which had no dialysis equipment on-site, was dead. The most important event was the alleged spontaneous college aged demonstrations the night his death was announced - at the White House even! How very odd.
I’m sure you saw clips of them, those wild and jubilant celebrations by young men chanting USA, USA. Nearly uncontrolled jubilation that seemed not only out of character but over the top - and why do you suppose that was?
More than likely we saw the first mass usage of social media manipulation software, recently purchased by the Pentagons Psychology Operations unit. Software designed to allow a handful of personnel, to create and manage hundreds, if not thousands of fake Face Book and other social media accounts.
“So come on down to the White House, it’s where the action is! Me and Jimmy Kill are here and it’s great, see the pictures and video’s he and I have posted – it’s soooooo kewl! See you soon! USA USA USA USA USA - Signed: Billy Facebot.
There was a brief ray of light in all this madness. When a young man chose to question the death orgy that others of his generations were wallowing in, asking a question that promptly got him demonized through social media systems. Richard Mendenhall (former UofI student) asked the question that no one wants to hear in the land of Imperial Troopers – “What kind of person celebrates death?”
ANSWER: Ignorant people, programmed to obey, that’s who!
So, with another boogie man gone, the rhetoric now swings to the revenge that will be unleashed upon us. We must be ever vigilant in our 1000 year war against everyone. We must not rest, especially since the President now has cover from his kill, getting the Hawks off is back for being weak on terror and opening the door for troop withdraw that will help ensure his re-election.
Meanwhile the sheeple continue to much away on the juicy tidbits thrown to them, as they are molested at airports, stopped at random roadblocks and questioned, put on person of interest lists for questioning authority and serialized at birth so they can buy and trade with their number.
“Que the Revenge Terror Attack,” screams the director!
Don’t you love it when a plan comes together.
Some reading Material if you dare to be put on the list with Buz and myself.
How we grow our own terrorist when none are around.
http://news.ca.msn.com/world/cp-article.aspx?cp-documentid=28651334
When you’re a terrorist you get younger every year.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/hoax-white-house-claims-4-year-old-bin-laden...
Dead man talking and talking and talking and talking.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/04/top-us-government-insider-bin-la...
Of course the cover up has to be maintained, so the Penta People then spend our tax dollars to buy up every book detailing the original crime.
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/09/26/department-defense-turns-tot...
From those same people who brought you Iran as it is today, through their covert operations in 1953 that killed the democratically elected President of Iran.
http://redactednews.blogspot.com/2010/05/cia-admits-making-fake-osama-bi...
Of course control over the media is critical and The Homeland Nazis are not happy when their orders are not followed.
http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=5533
All of this is old news really, since these scenarios are all part of the Penta Peoples agenda in keeping their jobs safe for generations yet to come.
http://www.oldthinkernews.com/?p=1272
An institution above the law that manipulates the social and political structures it’s sworn to protect, a deviant institution so insidious that they can pilfer Trillions of dollars and still be held in high esteem.
http://dailybail.com/home/lost-but-not-found-23-trillion-still-missing-a...
Please remember, all of this is part of the plan to restrict movement, make you question everyone around you and submit to authority. That’s why the terrorists are allegedly now going to go after the developed worlds worst rail system and why the public has to be molested even more.
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/05/staged-al-qaeda-rail-attack-plot-to-be...
The real crunch and total control of the people comes through their bellies. All of this, the death, the murders, the destruction by our Offensive Military Complex is to make the money men more money. Even after scamming us through fraudulent mortgage practices and then having us pay them bailout money for the fleecing they did, our reward is hard times in the bread line.
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/how-goldman-sachs-created-food-crisi...
But then – what else is there at the end of the day for the money men, but watching Strom Trooper shot-em-ups, as they taxi out the runway in their private jets, while the sheeple are irradiated, just before being herded onto their crowded transport.
I'm confused. Are our secret military forces the superhuman folks that can program people's minds, fly stealth copters, and start wars to guarantee their profits or are they the bumbling folks who get duped by faulty intelligence and inadvertently give away our technology to our enemies? There's enough our government does wrong that we don't need to invent reasons to be mad at them or not believe them.
Yah mon.
It just don't make no sense does it?
I'm just as confused and also tired and bored after wading through that swamp of nonsensical Glenn Beck style paranoia.
Sorry man but I guess you will always be "pained". Since so many of the rest of us are "sheeple", who either cannot or will not "think for themselves".
Just because the media and the government present lies doesn't make what you present any more credible.
Surfing the internet for stuff that just confirms what I already believe doesn't constitute "thinking for myself" in my opinion.
I gotta admit that I'm pretty limited intellectually and that I am very gullible,
but I just don't follow your logic very well Buzz.
I watched the clip and Benazir Bhutto saying that Bin Laden was murdered. She even named the murderer.
Why is Benazir Bhutto trustworthy?
Are you seriously arguing that because the US government is not trustworthy, that makes Benazir Bhutto a "credible source of information"?
Just because the US government lies I should believe any nonsense that contradicts the US government?
Again I ask: Why is Benazir Bhutto a credible source of information. Telling me that because the US government is a big liar doesn't cut it Buzz.
We've been down this road before. Any chosen conspiracy theory is the absolute truth, and anyone else who doesn't buy into it is a gullible simpleton without any ability to reason or make their own decisions. Theories are always "proven" by obscure video clips or links to conspiracytheoristsunite.com. They're further backed up by evidence that does NOT exist, expressly for the purpose of proving the theory to be even MORE true (see the missing pictures of the dialysis machine.)
I will admit that the information coming out of this is weird, and the situation is confusing, and it is a veritable treasure trove of conspiracy theorist ammunition. I just don't give the government as much credit as you do. You're putting these people on a pedestal thinking they could pull off something like this and not get caught. Even if some of this was faked, there is no way that the Obama people would risk getting caught lying about this, with a full year and a half left before the re-election. It would sink his Presidency.
But alas, there is no way to debate someone who buys so wholeheartedly into conspiracy theories. It's much like trying to get an Evangelical Christian to believe in evolution on a message board. In the end when people have an emotional attachment to the information, it has to be their own personal decision. If they choose to believe in evolution, they have to alter some of their fundamental core beliefs, which doesn't happen easily or quickly.
P.S. I'm not taking a stance on evolution or creationism, the reference was only used as an analogy. Personally, I believe there is room for both. Evolutionists believe man started our evolutionary process in cesspools billions of years ago. The bible says that God watered the entire earth, and formed man from the dust of the ground. Not sure why the two are mutually exclusive, but I digress. Or do I?
You really believe with all the crap we've done to people over the years we don't have any enemies?
So Al Qaeda is in on this conspiracy too given that it's being reported that they've confirmed bin Laden's death? Or the news media is and they're making it up? Or our government is duping the news media into believing Al Qaeda announced that?
At what point can you believe anything you read? Couldn't every single person in your life be secretly out to get you? Maybe you're in the Truman Show. Or maybe it's something called paranoid schizophrenia. You should really have it checked out by a trusted professional...that is if you can find one the government doesn't already control.
Some people just can't accept having a black president. What will they do when we get a woman or a muslim ???? :)
Buzorro - you write that "Bin Laden has been dead for almost a decade," like it's the truth. The reality of the situation is that he may have died 10 years ago, but if it is true show me evidence. People saying he's in poor health is not evidence that he's dead. And apparently it's possible he wasn't in a cave at all - he may have been livin it up at The Hotel Islamabad.
According to reports there were 40 some commandos dropped into the compound, plus the pilots, plus all the people at the Pentagon, plus all the people in the White House who were involved in this operation - are all those people capable of lying about this in unison? And if you really want proof that something like this couldn't be faked or lied about, consider this.... Do you really think they would have included Joe Biden in on anything that they wanted to keep secret or lie about? No way.
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