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Penteller wrote on July 23, 2011 at 10:07 am

Once again we can always tell

Once again we can always tell when we are on the mark, as nothing is provided as a third party counter point to our words, just personal attacks against our character.

The description you gave is the twisted logic given by those who refuse to consider any alternative to the herd mentality now orchestrated by a highly controlled and recently revealed criminal media.

Its foundation is the codeword “Conspiracy Theorist”, intended to discredit anyone who provides contrary alternatives. A code word seedling on which to water further assaults that grow a mental hedge and help keep those who are trained to only believe the “official” media explanation, from being able to see real truths.

LEFT?
Who said I was left?
Never saw that in any of my posts, could you point out some examples?

As for conspiracies… Here are some of the questions that I’ve compiled on the 911 event, just things that were daily news items collected over a period of time. Questions never asked by the mainstream media and never will be, since it is not allowed by those who own it.

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Why, months before the 9/11 attacks was the World Trade center buildings sold for the first time in 33 years to a private investor for a paltry sum of $200 million, who insured them for 2 billion including a terrorist attack. Buildings that were never seen as being profitable and because of their extremely high asbestos content had actually been condemned?

Why did the new owner upon purchasing the WTC complex, immediately change security companies to a company headed by George W. Bush’s brother, Marvin Bush, and cousin, Wirt Walker III, the same company that also provided security to American Airlines and the Dulles airport?

Why was an unprecedented $15 billion placed on “put” options just before 9/11, wherein investors bet that certain stocks would fall in value over the next few days. And why specifically the two Airlines that would suffer most from 9/11have some of the largest puts?
Why on 911 was the Air Force simulating "Multiple Hijackings of Aircraft" that caused great confusion amongst Air Traffic Controllers?

Why did the Government change the rules of engagement for hijacked Aircraft just weeks before 911, wherein only the Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, could authorize action, who goes missing for 30 critical minutes on the morning of the attacks. A procedure changed back after 911?

Why did supersonic US fighter aircraft that are scrambled suddenly have a top speed of only around 200 MPH and were recalled?

Why did air traffic controllers who called their assigned emergency numbers for the military told that no senior officers were available to take their calls or make a decision? A procedure that was used successfully a 100 times the year prior to 911?

Why did George Bush show no reaction when told that American was under attack and sat for nearly 30 minutes at a school full of children in an event widely publicized and known?

Why were there five Israeli citizens across the river from the WTC towers and in place to film the planes crashing into the towers. Their joyous high-five’s prompted a concerned citizen to call the police who found traces of explosives in their vans by bomb-sniffing dogs. Men who were inexplicably released by the police and who later in an interview on Israeli television said they had been sent to the United States “to document the event”?

Why were explosive sniffing dogs that regularly patrolled the World Trade Center, not used for several weeks prior to 9/11?

Why was an airline stewardess’s body found gagged and bound on a New York street after the impact?

Why did multiple individuals such as fire fighters and police being interview after the event, talk about while still in the building many floors below, experience explosions around them long after the impact?

Jet fuel is essentially kerosene. Why would a fuel type burned every day in sheet metal stoves around the world at 875ºF degrees, somehow melt a metal that requires a blast furnace at 2795ºF?

Why has no steel-framed building or sky-scraper in history, ever collapsed due to fires, yet on this single day, within hours of one another, three buildings collapsed. This even after Firefighters claim to have had the fires under control and in one building there are pictures and videos of survivors waving for help from previously burnt out floors?

Why did the owner of the buildings say on national television that he ordered one of the towers (building 7) to be “pulled” (jargon for controlled demolition). Yet, no one to this day has asked this man how he managed to achieve this incredible feat in a matter of hours, and amidst the chaos of 9/11?

Why would a building fall, long after the fires had stopped – video’s of people standing in the opening of the impact area?

Just before the building’s collapse, what are the puffs blowing outward at lower levels that you see in videos, simultaneously and far below the impact areas?

Newton’s law of gravity states that all objects will fall at the same rate if there are no other forces interfering with its fall. A ball dropped from the top of the Twin towers would hit the ground in about seven seconds. How can hundreds of floors made up of concrete and steel pancake into one another and be lying in a heap in seven and one half seconds?

Why in all the videos that you see shown of the buildings’ collapsing, does the building drop away from the upper floors, not the upper floors falling down onto the next?

In the Pennsylvania crash of flight 93, how did cell phones that never worked before from 30,000 feet, suddenly work perfectly so people could call home?

Why did the Pennsylvania Flight 93 crash site have a small impact crater with virtually no airplane parts visible and a debris field some 3 miles long?

Why has the cockpit recording from the Flight 93 crash been kept from the public and those who have heard it reported a giant sucking sound that sounds like cabin de-compression heard at the end?

Why do the recorders on the planes that stuck the twin towers and Pentagon have no recording of the cockpit conversations?

How and why did the aircraft black boxes go missing from all four flights?

Why would a suspected Muslim high-jacker make a recording, ask for forgiveness from his family for what he was about to do (something that no suicide person would ever do, because he and his family are being blessed by God above all others in what he is about to do)?

Why did George Bush for a year, block all investigations into 9/11 and only after victim’s families began legal proceedings to force the government to investigate, did he hand-pick the investigating panel members with a clause that prevented any questioning under oath of himself, Cheney, or their staff?. A panel whose chair was a lifelong close family friend of the Bush’s.

Why are all the security tapes from the Pentagon and some from local commercial locations (gas station and hotel) that showed the type of aircraft hitting the building being kept secret?
In the only video image of impact from the Pentagon that the government has allowed to be published, shows an "orange" fireball coming from the building (which burning kerosene does not produce), what was that?

In that same official "fireball" Pentagon picture provided by the Government, where is even one scattered aircraft part seen, especially since the opening is considerably smaller than the wingspans of the alleged aircraft?

How is it that the fight path of descent and turn that the Pentagon aircraft took, impossible to do for a plane the size allegedly used?

How is it that after a huge fire that burnt every thing else, where there hundreds of pieces of luggage "pulled" from the Pentagon and lined up on the lawn for photographing, still have handles and straps intact and were only sooted?

How can a soft-skinned aluminum clad aircraft, deeply penetrate a reinforced concrete building designed and built to withstand direct artillery fire?

Why was standard crash site procedures (that take days) not used at the Pentagon, which requires complete inspection, mapping, tagging and recording of the debris by NTB officials?

Why have there never been any NTB reports published that quantify matching aircraft parts, something done in every NTB investigation?

No official agency (FAA, FBI or the airlines) has ever released a full list of the Pentagons 911 passengers, but within hours the FBI released a list of the alleged hijackers?

Why in aerial pictures taken that day is there a broad white line running across the law of the Pentagon that perfectly lines up with the approach of whatever hit the Pentagon?

Why would the government bar all 911 families who received compensation, from any further discovery through litigation? I.E. You took the money - therefore you can no longer question us.
Why have New York fire and police personnel been silenced about talking of 911 experiences, for fear of employment and personal reprisals?

Why have the four aircraft which crashed on September 11th, 2001 never been forensically matched to the four planes hijacked that morning?

Why where nearly two dozen bin Laden family members allowed to fly out of the United States on 9/12 by Presidential executive order, when all commercial and private aircraft were grounded?
How and why did all of BBC’s (British Broadcasting Corporation) coverage of 911 go missing from their archives in 2009, some of which showed discrepancies in the collapse of building seven?

Why on New Years eve 2009, was an event held at ground zero that encouraged people to come and destroy any 911 pictures they might have and who would promote such an event? And why can no trace of that event be found on the internet?

Why on 9/10 was the National Communications System’s (NCS) Special Routing Arrangement Service (SRAS) system, designed to handle communications during an attack, turned on to "exercise mode" and unavailable?

John O'Neill had been a Deputy Director of the FBI and Osama bin Laden's main pursuer in the US government. John quit the FBI because he believed the Bush administration had stymied the intelligence agency's investigations on terrorism. O'Neill went public with these charges at the same time he was leaving the FBI, taking a job he had been offered as head of security at the World Trade Center, where he died on 911. The same security company that also provided security for American Airlines and Dulles international airport, a company run by George Bush’s brother Marvin Bush?

Just prior to 9-11, some Wall Street firms reported large numbers of put options being placed on various airline stocks. Put options gain in value when a stock goes down and airline stocks went down after 9-11. Since then, both the Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE) and the Security Exchange Commission SEC have revealed that all documents relating to these transactions have been destroyed?

Sept. 10 2001, Washington Times article – “Israel’s Mossad…Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning… Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act… Mossad had penetrated every Muslim organization and would have little problem in finding any number of fanatics to carry out a suicide mission in the belief they were serving Allah?”

In recent years, several of the 911 commission members have either called for another inquiry or have stated that they believe they were lied to or led astray in their work on the commission?

Thousands of engineers, architects and military people have called for a new investigation into 911, as they believe like millions of others that the building collapses were not a random event, nor could the buildings have collapsed in the manner in which the public has been led to believe?

Questions in the validity of the 911 story continue to be raised by many of our European friends, some at the highest levels in their government, who either say outright it’s a lie or question the building’s collapse. Non of which is reported by corporate media in this country?

Why did the 911 commission omit from the official report, the testimony of specialist Behrooz Sarshar, pertaining to specific tip(s) provided to the FBI in April and June 2001 regarding planned imminent “Kamikaze Pilots” attacks targeting major cities in the United States.

And I watch daily for other news items provided by “official” news sources, which nearly all of this came from.

alabaster jones 71 wrote on July 02, 2011 at 11:07 am
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People used to believe the

People used to believe the earth was flat, and they were wrong.
People currently believe that Osama is dead, Obama was born in Hawaii, and that the planes that everyone in NYC saw fly into the twin towers just might have been responsible for making them collapse...so they all must be wrong too. Conspiracy theory logic 101.

The absolute worst thing about conspiracy theorists (remind yourself that there is a HUGE difference between principled skepticism and conspiracy theorists, the latter characterized by the lack of a personal filter that distinguishes skepticism based on reason and evidence from skepticism borne from internet rumors that anyone can start) is their assertion that everyone else is a sheep blind to the evils and lies of those in power. Either you believe what I tell you or you're a crackpot...sounds like the same government you rail against to my ears. Think you're morally superior though, don't ya?