Lovie: 'Something is wrong'

Lovie: 'Something is wrong'

CHAMPAIGN — The NFL and its players were in the news all weekend. And mostly not for what happened between the lines.

First came President Donald Trump’s criticism of NFL players who have kneeled in protest during the national anthem and that they should be fired. Sunday was the response, with teams — and some owners like the Jacksonville Jaguars' Shad Khan, an Illinois grad — locking arms or kneeling together in continued protest.

Lovie Smith spent 19 seasons in the NFL before taking the Illinois job last year. He hasn’t shied away from sharing his opinion when asked about the political climate in the country the past year.

“The Presidency of our United States, I think there’s a certain level of respect and just how you assume that position would behave in every situation,” Smith said. “That’s not the case right now. For this many people to feel like they need to take a stand against it, something is wrong.

“Is it OK for someone to call another American those names? Is it OK? Is that what we believe? If it is, I guess make your opinion known. To me, it’s not.”

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anirudhkashikar wrote on September 25, 2017 at 4:09 pm

I sincerely request the highest paid teacher to help U of I win atleast 9 games this season. please let us not forget that even though  the university is broke, state is broke and probably foreign governments and nationals are supporting the college. 

maybe, take a page out of  alabama's coach book and win. Stay away from riling up people and joining the free fall of politics. 

 

Please!! i beg you Lovie Smith. Help us beat atleast 9 Teams and i assure you i will keep my mouth shut!

cjw61822@hotmail.com wrote on September 25, 2017 at 4:09 pm

Two years from now when Lovie takes his sub 500 level record and goes back to Florida 20 million richer, we will be reminded of the fact that he was of no consequence in Illinois. But I do wonder, where was he last weekend when protesters in STL called for the death to police officers........ was he in favor of that speech, but not that of the President?  Where has he been when LEO's are murdered every week in this country.. Has he not been vocal about that?

 

Yet a group of millionares who depend on police officers to get them to games,. to protect them and the fans at the stadium are now suddenly self righteous in their comments about their dislike of the police.

 

Here is a clue.  In the National Felon League, do not employ cops as stadium security.  Do not employ them to wisk you to the games with illegal convoys of flashing red/blue lights.    It is clear that the NFL does not support law enforcement.

 

Let them try and do their games without them.

 

102 channels on my tv.

 

3 carry football

 

Lot of choices.  The NFL will no longer be one.

Believe It Or Not wrote on September 26, 2017 at 5:09 am

The motivation for the NFL players protests isn't a dislike for police. What would be the gain from that? In fact there is nothing to gain from these demonstrations other than understanding, acknowledgement, and a plea for change. There is a vast contrast between bringing attention to police brutality and other injustices versus "disliking" any and every officer because they wear their uniform and are righteous in their duties. 

787 wrote on September 25, 2017 at 5:09 pm

Yes, something is wrong.  How many years has it been, since the football program had a winning record?

You're worrying about the wrong stuff, Lovie.  Put your efforts towards a winning season first.

dw wrote on September 25, 2017 at 5:09 pm

"He hasn’t shied away from sharing his opinion when asked about the political climate in the country the past year."

He was asked for a comment regarding NFL football, he has a bit of experience in that area, so he commented.

Was he asked about the St. Louis altercation?   Dunno, and doesn't matter.  Whataboutism is classic Russian propoganda technique that is a variant on the tu quoque logical fallacy:   attempting to refute a point or argument by an appeal to hypocracy of the person.  His point that something is wrong and his question about whether the President of the United States calling a bunch of player's mothers bitches is ok has nothing to do with what he did or didn't do, did or didn't say about cops in St. Louis.

How many wins or losses he has is a Red Herring.

Once you have an education in logical debate, this stuff becomes funny when you see it so easily, and then sad when you realize how many of your fellow (voting) Americans don't :-(.  Don't fall for soviet-russia era propaganda -- educate yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/150/Red...

So whatabout his point?   Is it acceptible to YOU for the President of the Unitied States to call the someone's mom whose child he disagrees a bitch?  Make your opinion known.  To me, it is not acceptible behavior from a grownup, let alone a US President.

wayward wrote on September 25, 2017 at 6:09 pm

Yup. It seemed to me that Lovie basically said that he didn't consider it appropriate for the POTUS to publicly call a football player a "son of a b--ch." Not exactly a radical statement.

BruckJr wrote on September 25, 2017 at 7:09 pm

Some study logical debate.  Others study spelling.

Anonymous71 wrote on September 25, 2017 at 5:09 pm

I am sure Lovie smith was not for protesters stating they wanted police officers to be killed. He did comment on it because he was never asked about it. Smith also does not support the POTUS calling fellow citizens "sons of bi*****" for expressing their viewpoint. Trump disrespects the flag more than than anyone else by criticizing the very right it protects. Also, let's not forget that Trump used a bogus excuse of bone spurs in his foot to get out of military duty, despite beig able to complete all physical activity when enrolled as a student in the new york military academy. Trump spends most of his time thinking of insults to hurl at others. He is a disgrace to this country. 

wayward wrote on September 25, 2017 at 6:09 pm

"He is a disgrace to this country."

That too.

Innocent_Primate wrote on September 26, 2017 at 7:09 am

I think all that Lovie Smith was referring to when he said, “Something is wrong” was the language used. The use of profanity to characterize those engaging in peaceful protest is inappropriate. One would expect the leader of a country like the United States to say something more along the lines of “I support their right of peaceful protest but disagree with the forum used.”

Marty wrote on September 28, 2017 at 1:09 pm

He can't win anywhere. Is he here more for the image and fundraising?