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Sid,"Recent history is the

Sid,

"Recent history is the record of a vast conspiracy to impose one level of mechanical consciousness on mankind." -- Allen Ginsberg

There’s evidence that the Czar “approved” the murder of protesters? Not sure that’s a defendable statement. Yes he had sent troops to St. Petersburg because of the unrest that the money men’s funding had created through the likes of Lenin and Stalin. It was a Communist movement that eventually resulted in tens of millions being butchered and the country being sent back into a dark age, to eventually emerge as a threat to other nations, which was the plan.

Like many of European aristocracies and even America, Russia was being challenged by the socialist movement, created by Carl Marx, a financial benefactor of the powers who keep man in turmoil by pitting him against each other on a regular basis. Thus making money from the ongoing confrontations they create.

It can easily be said that the Czar was a “benevolent” man - for what other Monarch of his era would banish, rather than execute, those who were openly promoting and organizing the Monarchy’s destruction. He could have just as easily executed them and probably saved his realm, but instead choose a more “Christian” way of dealing with the issue.

You are correct, it was Lenin returning along with over 30 of his followers and staff across a war zone, on an armored train, protected by German troops, so as to assure Lenin’s return to St. Petersburg. An interesting affair, considering that Germany and Russia were at war with each other at the time.

And who creates as you said, the “rival economic interests?” The tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars provided to the Russian revolution by the money men, given to the most brutal and animal natured creatures, assured the Czars downfall and the bogie man that Russian became. Ultimately creating entire permanent industries built upon death and destruction, with endless wars of profitability, eventually allowing for the complete corruption of Americas political and social systems.

Conflict among nations for economic gain is a 300 year old game, created by and maintained through, manipulative central banking that controls the world’s money. By pitting nation against nation, not only do you assure continued profits through the military industrial complex, but you also have ready made thugs to “collect” on the debts – other nations.

Just look at Europe and for that matter, all over the world right now, how they are jumping through hoops to bail each other out, just to keep from having major conflicts. Our difficulties with China, our groveling to the private corporation The Federal Reserve to give us more borrowed money to fix what they created, while properties across the country are being bought up by a select few at fire sale prices.

Man, talk about dragging front and center the 800lb gorilla in the room!

You are spot on about much of the final issues you raised. However, there is a caveat that needs mentioned. Besides penning about a 1000 signing statements (unprecedented in Presidential history), George the W Bush also signed an agreement with Israel to back up any war they get into. An automatic authorization that nearly happened several months back and was only thwarted when a top Pentagon general publicly stated he would not authorize such a move. I’m sure he’s been relieved of duty or died in some accident by now, like all of the key players in the Bin Laden kabuki production.

As for Iran and oil, the price of oil will be the least of our problems if folks start shooting. Russia has reconstituted some old weapons systems and upgraded them with high tech devices that are incredibly lethal, like 300mph torpedoes and 2500mph cruise missile’s. Just watch the evening news and you see their “old” big bombers within our costal airspace and subs within the gulf – shooting range.

As for Obama, he’s going to be re-elected because he’s a “useful” tool for Israel. One of their prime ministers once said, “If you want to destroy us (Israel), just leave us alone”. This is why Israel constantly plays the victim, getting the US to spend more on Israel’s defense than the citizens of Israel do, meanwhile their technicians and services are highly integrated into many nations defense and social infrastructures, all the while maintaining a significant nuclear weapons system.

Romney is too gung ho Israel, and although he epitomizes the belief most fundamentalist Christians have, that Israel must be given anything it wants so our God will come back, it is something that long term does not serve Israel well, although out of chaos comes order. Which is why the trigger will be pulled, but not by Iran, since it’s against their religion to launch a first strike, but once slapped will throw everyone and everything into the fray.

And speaking of order and influence and military industrialization that leads to Fascism - how about that ERIC. The secretive organization that nationwide coordinates and coaches legislatures in authoring and passing bills that are Corporate friendly, such as restricting the citizen rights to challenge corporate control of our lives.

Love It or Leave It
Love what? And Leave Where?
It’s a world wide cesspool only growing deeper.

So in none of this you don’t see a pattern, no multi-generational constancies, no emerging and singular underlying reasoning to the repeated types of conflicts for the same exact reasons? No consistencies in the facts we have both presented?

P.S. Thanks for the wonderful replies! It’s been a long time since we’ve had such a distinguished author aboard the digital time ship.