Illini grade vs. Ohio State: D

Illini grade vs. Ohio State: D

Our take on Saturday's 52-22 loss to Ohio State:

PLAYER OF THE GAME: Braxton Miller

Sure, Carlos Hyde had a nice day. But he isn’t going to New York as a Heisman Trophy finalist. Miller is. Before he leaves Columbus, the guess here is he adds to the Buckeyes’ Heisman haul.


Ohio State A, Illinois D

Hyde will never have an easier 100-yard, three-TD game in his life. Nice that Nathan Scheelhaase completed a lot of passes, but 2.8 yards per catch isn’t going to win you many games.


Ohio State A-, Illinois D

Hold a team to 170 total yards and 74 on the ground and you’re playing SEC-like football. Ashante Williams will have a couple nice moments during Illinois’ postseason banquet.

Special teams

Ohio State C, Illinois C

Buckeyes might want to work on their two-point conversion defense. Or maybe Tim Russsell is just that good. Nice to see the holder get some pub with a couple of nifty plays.


Ohio State A, Illinois D

The Illini uniforms get put away for good two days after Thanksgiving. Same with the Buckeyes. But these programs are in vastly different places. It’s hard to imagine Illinois being competitive with Urban Meyer’s team very soon.

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illinifaningeorgia wrote on November 03, 2012 at 8:11 pm

"Scheelhaase completed a lot of passes, but 2.8 yards per catch isn’t going to win you many games."

Is this guy capable of throwing the ball more than 5-7 yards downfield?  The football travels further when he throws those passes in the flat for no gain.


jimbo2009 wrote on November 03, 2012 at 8:11 pm


Until we have a real QB this team won't be winning any games.   2.8 yards per completion.....a JFL QB could do better.  NS can't read a defense, can't go through progressions, can't throw accurately beyond 5 yards, and is no way a BCS QB! And no it wasn't because of poor O line play today, it was Mr. Happy Feet!


SEMOIllini wrote on November 03, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Tough challenge today no doubt, but Scheelhaase misses on too many passes and makes too many bad decisions.  The game is simply too fast for him.  Why did we get so locked in to this QB that there are no other options for 2-3 years.  O'Toole was great in HS but now he looks lost. is it poor coaching, or just poor selection during recruitment?  Other teams seem to get more out of players than we do, there is no "coaching up" apparent anywhere on this team.  Looks like a difficult road ahead for Illinois football.

CecilColeman wrote on November 03, 2012 at 8:11 pm

In Mike White's first season  at Illinois - Game # 10 at Ohio St, Illini QB  Dave Wilson threw for 621 yards and 6 touchdowns (43 completions out of 69 attempts). This was Game #9 of Beckman's  first season and his three year starter at QB threw for 2.8 yards per completion.

And White took over a program in much, much worse shape than Beckman has (6-24-3 in previous three seasons).

Illini lost that amazing day 49-42, but the buzz was on. People couldn't wait for the 1981 season.

Keep chewin' that tobacco, Tim. Keep chewin' that tobacco.

RonZookIsMyCoach wrote on November 03, 2012 at 11:11 pm

Here is my issue.... When you have a 4th and 20 and are punting, and Ohio State ends up getting a 15 YARD penalty for roughing the kicker, as a coach you shouldn't be celebrating that by chest bumping the punter on the sidelines. It didn't even result in a first down. Then they acted completely shocked when they didn't get it. It's simple math that these clowns of coaches can't figure out and you expect them to win football games. GET RID OF THEM!!! Mike Thomas is the reason Illinois football is in shambles plain and simple. He had to make a statement with "HIS" guy. I know for a fact Beckman was his FIFTH choice!! When you get down that far on a list it's a recipe for disaster. This guy is a clown and is the sole reason why Illinois is as bad as they are. Regardless of who you bring in next it will take time, but if you don't act now if will be at least a decade before Illinois is even close to relevant again in football. By the way not to rub it in but you the fans as just as much responsible for it. I have a smile on my face every Saturday knowing the misery you all are going through. Ron Zook forever... Champaign, never again!!!

DaisyJ wrote on November 04, 2012 at 8:11 am

hey miss RonZookis My Roach....I remember a fore arm shiver he gave one of his players on the sideline because he did something wrong. This is and was the real zooker

RonZookIsMyCoach wrote on November 04, 2012 at 9:11 am

I never once said Zook was perfect. But I'm sure you are. You NEVER EVER make mistakes. The fact is Daisy is that you have to have someone to blame. You are the type of person that can't accept responsibility for their own actions. The only Ron Zook you know is the one that you would see on the sideline once a week. You don't have the slightest clue who or what that man stands for. So for you to pass judgement on someone just to direct attention the other way is gutless and cowardly. Enjoy your Sunday "Saint" Daisy...

DaisyJ wrote on November 04, 2012 at 6:11 pm

Giving one a fore arm shiver when you are the head coach in a postion power, and you have 25 years or more age on the kid is not a mistake it is an intentional act of character. Sounds like you are either related to him or were on his payroll too long. Glad you did not dispute the fore arm he handed the young man. If it were my kid, I would have had a fore arm for him, and actually even warned him it was coming first, just to give him a chance. The other kid got blind sided by his. Now that is what I call a "saint"

RonZookIsMyCoach wrote on November 04, 2012 at 6:11 pm

I am neither just know him is all. And can't stand you ignorant fans that blame him for the mess that Beckman's New Era is in. You want to bring up what Zook did on tv fine. How about your best friend Tim "The Clown" Beckman committing a NCAA violation on NATIONAL TV! And the university doesn't discipline him at all. He knows the rules he has had "45" years of coaching experience according to him. Or the fact that him and his staff are so clueless to the game of football as to have your Director of Football Operations get you a sideline warning penalty for running into the ref when he has no business being in the field in the first place. 

I'm glad you didn't dispute that you are a coward and gutless. You are the type of fan that has no clue what is going on in the field. You expect everything to be like a video game and if it doesn't go your way you hit the reset button. Hate to break it to you, life doesn't work that way. But I'm sure that is something your parents didn't teach you.

Just remember as long as you live ILLINOIS WILL NEVER BE RELAVANT IN FOOTBALL. Not saying they would have been under Zook. But Illinois is and always will be a basketball school. By the way how has that been going for you. Enjoy losing, I know I will certainly enjoy watching you lose.

DaisyJ wrote on November 04, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Show me where I blamed Zook for this mess. Wrong Daisy J, not going to find it. And I am on record on this site for blasting the intentional sneak behind the ref chew scene stating that he should have been sat by Thomas. I even sited the exact rule from the NCAA rule book. He is a total clown.

 Now, i must be getting to you for you to need to call me gutless. You sure have lots of hatred in you . I usually like to use your own words when I comment, so be careful how you comment.  It appears that others making the zook comment really gets under your skin. Good to know I was able to help you remember the choir boy we all knew him to be.Tell uncle Ronnie hi for me.

OKOMIS wrote on November 04, 2012 at 9:11 am

they sure had smiles on their faces when they ran Zook out of Gainseville.. fireing Zook was the right move then and it was here too... hiring Beckman?? that's another story.

illinigator wrote on November 04, 2012 at 1:11 am

this team defense has got to be one of the worse in the country.  I believe a coach should get more than one year as the headf coach, but I think he shopuld go if he doesn't replace the rest of his coahing staff.  They don't have a clue on how to coach in the B10 and their recruiting skills aren't looking very good either.  I know that Illinois is a joke compare to the other Universities in Illinois. they are even behind Nothern, Illinois State and Northwestern in the  rankings.   









egarin ratings

Mjgoduke wrote on November 04, 2012 at 6:11 am

Any manager making a new hire needs to position that hire for success.  Though I was glad to see Zook leave.   Thomas followed the Iraq Pottery Barn - he chose to blow up a bad, but not entirely dismal situation and he owns it.  Though they last 6 in a row under Zook (4 of which the defense kept competitive), the Illini were coming off back-to-back 7-6 seasons and there was no reason to think this was not a 5-7 win club based on the schedule and returners.  Any coach who didn't deliver 6 wins this year was not going to look like a step up unless they showed an entirely new entertaining offensive scheme. 

So Beckman was placed into a position where he had to deliver some did not look like a tear-down project.   Which is likely one of the reasons options 1-29 turned town the Illini in the offseason.  Now a year later the program looks far worse.  While I don't think he should be fired - its an interesting study that Beckman likely has only a small chance of ever being successful.  Basically he's a dead man walking.   Kevin Wilson came in after IU bottomed out, whomever takes over at Purdue will have same benefit that recruits and fans know it will take time.   The best analogy for Illinois is Minnesota where they chased Mason after a bad end to a season, though they had 5 straight .500ish seasons.   Same, deal, Gophers wanted to go from 6-6 to 9-3. Brewster immediately tanked and Gopher fans had 4 frozen seasons. 

With the Illini on-field results being of epic isaster, recruiting is going to be equally dismal for at least 2 years (assuming 3-9 is as good as '13 gets).   Hence, Beckman won't ever have enough talent to be strong '14.  Put it all together and Thomas chose to break everything when it was disappointing (good D, 2 bowl wins), but not entirely disastorous,   Now, he's got a real disaster - a team that's horrendous and the perception that the guy who broke it is supposed to fix it.         

I don't advocate firing Beckman....but I disagree that we wouldn't get a better coaching option this time, because whomever we would have hired after 2-10 was positioned for success. 



patrick wrote on November 04, 2012 at 3:11 pm

Something began to go terribly wrong with this team in the midst of last season's swoon. A dearth of talent is one possible explanation, but there has to be something more, especially given the caryover into this season. the only thing that I can come up with is a lack of football intelligence and/or a lack of football character. In both seasons, players seem unable or unwilling to correct mistakes. Many of the same errors are repeated, no matter who the opponent is. a teacher/coach can help ONLY if the player(s) is willing and able to learn. This aggregation appears to be too stubborn or ignorant to learn. I don't yet have a strong opinion about the staff's ability to coach, but, without the basic raw material, Knute Rockne would be unable to do much.

We alums and fans are likely stuck with this staff for 2 more years. Thank goodness most of the players will move on sooner than that. I didn't think I'd ever see anything worse than the Moeller teams. Well, they're back.

I don't expect bowl teams anymore. I don't even expect respectability. I just don't want to see embarrassing performances, week in and week out.

DaisyJ wrote on November 04, 2012 at 8:11 am

Nathan is just plain 3rd team fill in at best . A fill in..--3rd STRING .

Now, coach Beck. Put in someone else at QB and do the following.

Use shotgun for passing. 30%

Go under center 70%

Run off tackle with young.  20%

Pass 40% past 7 yards

Use the draw play

Use the screen pass play

Pass to tight end

Throw 5 down field bombs

Quit running from the shot gun. Throw it away, DO NOT RUN FROM THE SHOT GUN EVER.


The offensive line can only do so many things. When you expect them to protect you when you scramble, well that is not something they can do.

namber wrote on November 04, 2012 at 8:11 am

Not to mention that Mike White inherited a team whose coach thought the forward pass was illegal.  White dedicated the season to passing not wasting time doing attack run blocking.  All blocking was passive pass blocking.  Even the running game was draw plays, screen passes and flair passes.  When Thomas Rooks had great running season it was still based upon draw plays.  Our present team does not seem capable of learning two types of blocking.

Illini '73 wrote on November 04, 2012 at 9:11 am

Re:  "Is this guy capable of throwing the ball more than 5-7 yards downfield?"

The first play of the game was indicative.  The OSU linebacker got back to the pocket before Scheelhaase did.  Downfield passes take time to develop.  You can't call those plays when you know you're not going to have time for the QB to sit back in the pocket.  The only way Scheelhaase has that kind of time is to sprint out of the pocket.  Throwing deep passes on the run consistently is not a recipe for success.  It starts with the O line slowing down the pass rush.

Moonpie wrote on November 04, 2012 at 3:11 pm

What are all these Cs and Ds? The Sleepy Gazoo cheerleaders simply refuse to stop trying to find a way to hype the program. They need to become reporters and stop linking their reputations to the sucess of the program. Get your noses out of the program's jockstrap and be reporters.

Illinix4 wrote on November 05, 2012 at 4:11 pm


You are sorely mistaken if you think Braxton Miller is going to bring home the Heisman to Columbus. While he might be a good, solid quarterback, he is far from being a Heisman winner. Right now, although he might be hurt and in jeopardy of losing his Heisman stock, Klein from Kansas St is a much better quarterback and Heisman candidate. Why should a player even be consider for the Heisman when the team is not even eligible for a BCS bowl game?  Just sayin'.