Groce: Not there yet

CHAMPAIGN — Illinois coach John Groce had a handful of questions about his team when it traveled to Hawaii for the EA Sports Maui Invitational.

Four wins later, he has some answers.

For starters, Groce said Friday he knows his team can take a punch and fight on. Hawaii opened a 13-point halftime lead that the Illini overcame in overtime for a 78-77 win. Illinois (6-0) then won its next three to take the tournament title.

Just a few months after essentially the same group of players melted down over a miserable stretch that led to the dismissal of coach Bruce Weber, Groce believes the team has a quiet resolve.

“We’ve got seniors that have been through a lot,” Groce said of starters Brandon Paul, Tyler Griffey and D.J. Richardson. “They stay very poised and very even-keeled. ... That’s a part of our culture.”

Illinois dropped 13 of its last 15 games last season to finish 17-15 and miss the NCAA tournament. The losses piled up with such frequency that the players and Weber seemed powerless to stop the slide.

Not many people expected much this season out of the Illini, who host Gardner-Webb (4-3) on Sunday. They were picked to finish near the back of a strong Big Ten. And Groce himself has stressed that he doesn’t yet have the players he needs to transition all the way to the fast-paced style he prefers.

But when his sharpshooters are on, the Illini can look pretty good.

Paul is averaging 19.7 points per game on 49 percent shooting, including an impressive 18 for 41 from beyond the arc. Sophomore point guard Tracy Abrams is averaging 14.3 points on 50 percent shooting, and Griffey is at 10.5 per game on 57.5 percent shooting.

And Groce isn’t buying the idea that this year’s Maui title means any less than it might have in another year because the field only included one ranked team, No. 9 North Carolina. Illinois didn’t have to face North Carolina, either, taking on Butler in the title game after the Bulldogs took care of the Tar Heels.

The Illini made relatively easy work of Butler, winning 78-61.

“Call Roy Williams and ask him if he thinks Butler’s any good,” Groce said when asked about the quality of the tournament field. “The teams we played were good. The environment we played in at Hawaii was tough. You have to be extremely mentally and physically tough to play Butler.”

Abrams, Groce said, understands the new offense in ways he didn’t just three or four weeks ago. Paul, a sometimes streaky shooter who at his best can carry a team, is on and playing aggressive. And sophomore center Nnanna Egwu showed signs he might be able to offer Illinois the inside defensive presence it will need in the Big Ten.

The Illini are doing some other things right that they struggled with in recent seasons, including making 75 percent of their foul shots.

But Groce sounds wary of reading too much into a handful of early wins.

“Is that the end-all, be-all? Absolutely not,” he said. “We still have work to do — we’ve got to rebound better, we’ve got to foul less.”

Illinois was outrebounded in two of its wins on the Hawaii trip — 37-31 in the Butler game and an eye-opening 51-31 against Hawaii. And the Illini committed 26 fouls against the Rainbow Warriors, sending them to the line 31 times. If Hawaii had managed to hit just a couple more free throws than the 17 it made, it would have won.

“By no means,” Groce said, “have we arrived.”
 

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illiniearl wrote on November 23, 2012 at 9:11 pm

Anybody watch the K-State game today?   They made it to the 40 point mark in the second half of the second half (with about 7:40 left in the game).    Man, what a difference a new coach makes!   Happy days are here again!

P.S.  I live in Washington state and am still in need of a ticket to the Zag game - please help me out coach!

afan wrote on November 24, 2012 at 7:11 am

Stub hub has tickets for the Gonzaga game at $235.60.  Spokane loves their Bulldogs.  Only 7 seats left.  

pitch9 wrote on November 24, 2012 at 9:11 am

If you saw what I saw you know that Michigan is a very good team with 3 sons of NBA players contributing mightily.  The Illini are a good team, but the teams in the Big Ten will force us to make steady improvement if we want to win.  Bruce Weber will be fine at K-State, just as Coach Groce will do well at Illinois.   At the end of the season we'll see where they are.  I repeat, Michigan is good!

OKOMIS wrote on November 24, 2012 at 10:11 am

Who was the last coach to beat this Michigan team?

FloridaIllini wrote on November 24, 2012 at 7:11 am

Love the way Groce handles this team- if we are shooting well we can take down anybody- we are driving to the basket more this year but not converting the drives into baskets or fouls much and we pretty much have no inside game- our outside shooting is our game and our best hope is we have enough 3 point shooters that somebody is always going to be on- sure it a lot more enjoyable to watch this year's team and Groce is the real deal as a coach- we are headed back to relevancy!

houstonillini84 wrote on November 24, 2012 at 10:11 am

I think rebounding and turnovers will kill us in the B10 season. That being said, good shooting can take a team a long way, and if we can shoot well, we will do better than most expected.

fananyway wrote on November 25, 2012 at 8:11 am

Late news for me but Bruce Weber and KSU lost to Michigan 71-57