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AP Top 25: Illini getting votes again

Mon, 02/11/2013 - 12:04pm | Jim Rossow

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Consecutive wins against ranked teams — including still-No. 1 Indiana — got John Groce's Illini 26 votes in this week's AP Top 25.

The top 25 teams in The Associated Press’ college basketball poll, with first-place votes in parentheses, records through Feb. 10, total points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one point for a 25th-place vote and last week’s ranking:
    Record    Pts    Prv
 1. Indiana (26)    21-3    1,559    1
 2. Duke (20)    21-2    1,515    4
 3. Miami (17)    19-3    1,499    8
 4. Michigan    21-3    1,428    3
 5. Gonzaga (2)    23-2    1,371    6
 6. Syracuse    20-3    1,293    9
 7. Florida    19-3    1,286    2
 8. Michigan St.    20-4    1,178    12
 9. Arizona    20-3    1,062    7
10. Kansas St.    19-4    1,012    13
11. Butler    20-4    943    14
12. Louisville    19-5    842    11
13. Ohio St.    17-6    828    10
14. Kansas    19-4    823    5
15. Georgetown    17-4    679    20
16. Pittsburgh    20-5    591    23
17. Oklahoma St.    17-5    587    22
18. Marquette    17-5    493    24
19. New Mexico    20-4    433    15
20. Wisconsin    17-7    305    —
21. Notre Dame    19-5    264    25
22. Memphis    20-3    193    —
23. Oregon    19-5    137    19
24. Colorado St.    19-4    125    —
25. Kentucky    17-6    87    —
Others receiving votes: Minnesota 80, Missouri 69, Cincinnati 68, Saint Mary’s (Cal) 62, Creighton 56, San Diego St. 53, Louisiana Tech 43, VCU 35, Saint Louis 34, Illinois 26, NC State 24, Akron 12, UCLA 8, UNLV 6, Indiana St. 5, Virginia 4, Wichita St. 3, Belmont 2, Mississippi 1, Oklahoma 1.
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Here's Monday's coaches Top 25:

USA Today Top 25 Poll
The top 25 teams in the USA Today men’s college basketball poll, with first-place votes in parentheses, records through Feb. 10, points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one point for a 25th-place vote and last week’s ranking:
    Record    Pts    Pvs
 1. Duke (18)    21-2    744    4
 2. Indiana (6)    21-3    717    1
 3. Gonzaga (1)    23-2    681    6
 4. Miami (5)    19-3    674    11
 5. Michigan (1)    21-3    663    3
 6. Florida    19-3    628    2
 7. Syracuse    20-3    608    9
 8. Michigan State    20-4    582    8
 9. Arizona    20-3    491    7
10. Butler    20-4    460    14
11. Kansas State    19-4    455    15
12. Louisville    19-5    393    12
13. Kansas    19-4    364    5
14. Ohio State    17-6    353    10
15. Georgetown    17-4    329    21
16. Oklahoma State    17-5    259    24
17. Pittsburgh    20-5    246    25
18. New Mexico    20-4    203    16
19. Wisconsin    17-7    150    —
20. Marquette    17-5    144    —
21. Notre Dame    19-5    140    —
22. San Diego State    18-5    120    25
23. Creighton    20-5    102    13
24. Colorado State    19-4    79    —
25. Memphis    20-3    76    —
Others receiving votes: Missouri 72, Oregon 63, Virginia Commonwealth 63, Cincinnati 38, Minnesota 28, Kentucky 27, Saint Mary’s 27, Louisiana Tech 18, Saint Louis 13, Middle Tennessee 11, Mississippi 11, Illinois 10, Akron 9, UNLV 8, Wichita State 8, UCLA 3, Stephen F. Austin 2, Belmont 1, Oklahoma 1, Virginia 1.

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Bwp 5P wrote on February 11, 2013 at 12:02 pm

Just keep Fighting.....Illini...........the rankings will take care of themselves!

billbarnes wrote on February 12, 2013 at 11:02 am

Hello.  What's happening Champaign?  I haven't really watched an Illinois basketball game since Kendall Gill was playing.  However, my boy watches Illinois all the time.  He's a huge fan.  He went berzerk when we beat Indiana.  So, with my apologies, I will start watching Illinois again.  I wish my Alma Mater well.  I haven't been home in 22 years now but I'm looking forward to making it back soon.  Someone told me that you've gotten rid of the Chief.  I'm not down with that.  Anyway, Go Illinois!!

magsr213 wrote on February 11, 2013 at 3:02 pm

Indiana remaining #1 in this week’s AP Poll & #2 in the Coaches Poll reflect the thoughts of many professionals on the insignificance of the Illini’s win last Thursday night. I guess the masses also saw it as a “fluke” and rewarded Indiana as such. Just a thought!

OKOMIS wrote on February 11, 2013 at 3:02 pm

Why would they REWARD Indiana for a “fluke” loss?? And why didn’t they reward Michigan, for their “fluke” loss this weekend??  When your right your right… it had nothing to do with Florida or Michigan losing.. … Indiana would still be # 1 because they had such a good “fluke” loss… I get it now….

magsr213 wrote on February 11, 2013 at 4:02 pm

I'm not sure why, just thinking out loud? ESPN just stated today that it is the first time in 20+ years that the #1 team lost to an unranked team in the regular season and retained their #1 ranking? It's happened recently in conference tournaments as Kentucky lost to Vandy in the championship game of the SEC Tourney last year, and entered the NCAA Tourney as #1. Just a thought!

OKOMIS wrote on February 11, 2013 at 6:02 pm

Well I wouldn’t read too much into it… I’d say the fact that upsets have been more common than not this year… and everyone nipping on indiana’s heals lost too had more to do with it… if anything…. Illinois beating and Indiana staying #1 makes us look good…  

IlliniMike05 wrote on February 11, 2013 at 6:02 pm

I'm not sure how they're defining "in the regular season," since Illinois obviously lost to an unranked team in the last game of the regular season in 2005 and retained the No. 1 ranking in the last poll before postseason play began.


And it's an empty thought. It means nothing as it pertains to Illinois. If anything- and that's hypothetical, because again, this means nothing about Illinois- it means losing a last-second game here isn't thought of as a "bad" loss for Indiana.

IlliniMike05 wrote on February 11, 2013 at 6:02 pm

Next time you have a thought, think a little harder.


They aren't still No. 1 because the writers thought us beating them was a fluke, though by definition, it was. They're still No. 1 because they had an extremely impressive road win at Ohio State three days later, and Michigan, Florida, Kansas and Arizona all lost.

gregscott wrote on February 11, 2013 at 8:02 pm

good point illinimike!  If they had lost to Penn State that would have been different.  I think AP has it right, Indiana is #1, and Illini coming back to beat them is a quality win, not a fluke.  May not happen again, but Illini did it that night.  Hoosiers coming back to thrash the Buckeyes proves they are the top dog; they just let up at the wrong time against the Illini and Illini took advantage.  As long as Dookie is not at the top of the AP I be smiling!